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Post subject: Re: I'm afraid of buying a Fender amp. Again...
Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 2:12 pm
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Post subject: Re: I'm afraid of buying a Fender amp. Again...
Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 3:05 pm
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blues bondsman, you are being unreasonable. Even if a person is foolish/careless enough to not have the receipt, it shouldn't be that difficult for them to obtain a copy from the place of purchase, especially if it has only been a year or so. Egnater not only requires the original receipt, their warranty is not transferable, and they have on many occasions decided not to honor their warranty at all, receipt or not. <This I know from personal experience, and have read about the same experience of others.

It is wise to save receipts. :idea:

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Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 5:55 pm
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As big of a pain as it is to save a receipt, when I purchase something such as a guitar , amp or what not, I have a file that has the original receipt with the warranty info stapled together. Easy to find when I need it.


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Post subject: Re: I'm afraid of buying a Fender amp. Again...
Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 9:09 pm
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budglo wrote:
As big of a pain as it is to save a receipt, when I purchase something such as a guitar , amp or what not, I have a file that has the original receipt with the warranty info stapled together. Easy to find when I need it.


I tape the receipt in the amp: simple and I always know where it is.

FWIIW: Credit card companies can often produce receipts for such bug ticket items within two years upon request. Just need vendors name, amount and an approximate date.

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Post subject: Re: I'm afraid of buying a Fender amp. Again...
Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 10:32 pm
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As big of a pain as it is to save a receipt, when I purchase something such as a guitar , amp or what not, I have a file that has the original receipt with the warranty info stapled together. Easy to find when I need it.

+1

For warrantied items I always staple the sales receipt to the inside cover of the owner's manual.

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Post subject: Re: I'm afraid of buying a Fender amp. Again...
Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 7:12 am
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blues bondsman, you are being unreasonable. Even if a person is foolish/careless enough to not have the receipt, it shouldn't be that difficult for them to obtain a copy from the place of purchase, especially if it has only been a year or so. Egnater not only requires the original receipt, their warranty is not transferable, and they have on many occasions decided not to honor their warranty at all, receipt or not. <This I know from personal experience, and have read about the same experience of others.

It is wise to save receipts. :idea:


That hasn't been my experience with Egnater. I had one of my 6V6's start to rattle and they sent me a new pair no questions asked for my address and the serial #. I do still have the receipt, but the warranty is over now and I never needed it. Just lucky I guess. Bruce just had a bit of a shakedown in the customer service department. Fired the guy in charge and got a new customer service guy who is supposed to be first rate. Only time will tell. I have an early Rebel 20 and that thing has proving to be indestructible so far. It's been on over a hundred gigs and countless rehearsals. The tube rattle was the only problem. It was a GT branded JJ. They replaced them with JJ's without the GT branding.

It used to be you just registered the serial # and you were all set. Way back Fender had a one year warranty. I never had to use it on any of mt Blackface or Silverface amps. The times they are a changin!

If you look deeper into the posts on Egnater's site where they claim the warranty has been denied, there's usually something fishy going on. I go by my own experience.

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Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 8:55 am
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Yes. Not all the time , but more often than not you don't get the whole story. I have had no experience with Egnater, but of the guys who use them they have never complained . It seems everyone is exporting amps to be made elsewhere these days and it hurts quality. That being said , I have had zero problems with my tweed blues jr. But then again I don't gig it too hard either. Once a week out to practice and 2 times a month to play. If I had to load it up on a truck it might b a different story. Problem is very few companies offer a good grab n go amp these days.


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Post subject: Re: I'm afraid of buying a Fender amp. Again...
Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 9:09 am
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budglo, I took my 5e3 clone out last weekend to a larger venue this time. The club seats about 250 plus standing room and it killed. I was filling in with another band I play with. No pedal required, just the amp. I jumped the channels and it just sang. These guys are pretty loud and it kept up just fine. I was a little nervous about the room because I only use this amp in smaller bars, but it really kicked some serious arse. It kept up with my buddies 18 watt Marshall running an extension cab. pretty cool for an amp that only cost me $600 or so. It's a shame your not closer, I'd let you take it for a test spin.

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Post subject: Re: I'm afraid of buying a Fender amp. Again...
Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 9:45 am
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Supro the 5e3 clone is on my next list. I love the tweed circuits and that is probably the best grab n go amp there is. I hate the blues jr with my strats, but with my 335 it's not bad. I can only imagine how the 5e3 will sound with those big bottles.best amp I have had to date is a 59 bass man , but I don't need something that loud or heavy anymore.


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Post subject: Re: I'm afraid of buying a Fender amp. Again...
Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 10:11 am
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This version is a little different. Puts out roughly 18 watts. It also runs a GZ34 rectifier tube. Seems like the GZ34 gives me a little more headroom and a little tighter sound than some of the the clones I've tried out that utilize the 5Y3GT rectifier tube. I'm not positive if that's why, I'm' still learning all the tech stuff. Funny how you can build a really fine amp and not know all the tech stuff. :lol: All I know is it can get loud, sounds great, so far is reliable, and is seriously light weight.

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Post subject: Re: I'm afraid of buying a Fender amp. Again...
Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 1:09 pm
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Yeah, the first trouble that I had with the Twkr 40 was a bad preamp tube, Egnater sent two new ones out, no problem. Then the PT crapped out, it took over a month of calls and emails to finally get a RA number. Sent the amp to a repair center, another month and I got it back with a new PT, and working fine again. Then, the PT failed again and they just refused to answer my emails for quite awhile, then just plain said "no warranty".... :shock: I do agree that some of the posters of Egnater problems had some pretty questionable claims, fishy stories, but there seemed to be plenty more that sound perfectly reasonable that were treated poorly, many of which contacted me personally. I really like the sound of the 40, and I would go so far as to say that the sound was as excellent as any amp that I have ever owned, but its problems coupled with the problem of the new Rebel 20 that I owned for 24 hrs, left me with a sour taste for Egnater....no way ever again. :x

But, yes, the 5E3 is one of my favorite sounds. I have been collecting these little beauties for awhile, which have circuits similar to a 5E3 and sound similar, with a chassis about the size of a carton of cigarettes, and they sound fantastic and are as quiet as can be. I only know of two people that gig professionally with these little amps, for a couple of years, and they have been rock solid so far. I had a hard time giving the first one that I rebuilt back to the owner when I finished. I am anxiously waiting for my fourth one to arrive in the mail right now, my second of this version (my favorite) and I have two other versions, the "newest" version that I have is from about 1955. This time I got the matching speaker with the amp, both made in about 1945. Wonderful amps! Notice the 60+ year-old Sylvania rectifier and preamp tubes that still work like new. I have yet to get one with usable original output tubes, but no matter. As you've said, things aren't like they used to be.

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Post subject: Re: I'm afraid of buying a Fender amp. Again...
Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 1:35 pm
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63supro wrote:
This version is a little different. Puts out roughly 18 watts. It also runs a GZ34 rectifier tube. Seems like the GZ34 gives me a little more headroom and a little tighter sound than some of the the clones I've tried out that utilize the 5Y3GT rectifier tube. I'm not positive if that's why, I'm' still learning all the tech stuff. Funny how you can build a really fine amp and not know all the tech stuff. :lol: All I know is it can get loud, sounds great, so far is reliable, and is seriously light weight.
The nice thing about a DIY kit is the flexibility to make changes IMO. 18 watts is one efficient circuit. The tweed circuits give you the ability to use a jumper yo utilize both channels which gives alot of different tonal options. Have you played a humbucker guitar thru it?


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Post subject: Re: I'm afraid of buying a Fender amp. Again...
Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 2:33 pm
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budglo wrote:
63supro wrote:
This version is a little different. Puts out roughly 18 watts. It also runs a GZ34 rectifier tube. Seems like the GZ34 gives me a little more headroom and a little tighter sound than some of the the clones I've tried out that utilize the 5Y3GT rectifier tube. I'm not positive if that's why, I'm' still learning all the tech stuff. Funny how you can build a really fine amp and not know all the tech stuff. :lol: All I know is it can get loud, sounds great, so far is reliable, and is seriously light weight.
The nice thing about a DIY kit is the flexibility to make changes IMO. 18 watts is one efficient circuit. The tweed circuits give you the ability to use a jumper yo utilize both channels which gives alot of different tonal options. Have you played a humbucker guitar thru it?


Humbuckers, P-90's and the single coils from my Strat. They all sound great. The P-90's sound incredible. That thing goes from sweet to scream. :lol:

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Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 2:54 pm
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63supro wrote:
This version is a little different. Puts out roughly 18 watts. It also runs a GZ34 rectifier tube. Seems like the GZ34 gives me a little more headroom and a little tighter sound than some of the the clones I've tried out that utilize the 5Y3GT rectifier tube. I'm not positive if that's why, I'm' still learning all the tech stuff. Funny how you can build a really fine amp and not know all the tech stuff. :lol: All I know is it can get loud, sounds great, so far is reliable, and is seriously light weight.
The nice thing about a DIY kit is the flexibility to make changes IMO. 18 watts is one efficient circuit. The tweed circuits give you the ability to use a jumper yo utilize both channels which gives alot of different tonal options. Have you played a humbucker guitar thru it?


Humbuckers, P-90's and the single coils from my Strat. They all sound great. The P-90's sound incredible. That thing goes from sweet to scream. :lol:
Thats awesome to hear. I love the sound of P90s . Especially in a hollowbody, but a Les Paul with P90s are awesome goodness.


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Post subject: Re: I'm afraid of buying a Fender amp. Again...
Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 3:28 pm
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budglo, Here's a few photographs I did this afternoon of the 5e3 and a couple pedals I built.
Don't be afraid of buying a Fender amp again. Just build it. :mrgreen:

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