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Post subject: DRRI channel madness :D
Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 5:57 am
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Hi!

I'm thinking about trying to playing through both channels at the same time (with the same guitar). To be successful at that i would need to change the phase of one of the signals ( does it matter which one? ). Is there some tiny and simple pedal/box that has just "in" and "out" and it changes the phase? Or how do you suggest me to do that? Radial ABY has the option but only one input so i'm not sure that it would work with my setup...

Most importantly, how would this change the sound? Considering that if i dial the channels pretty close to each other would it make the sound fatter? Or how would it sound? Is this a stupid idea? :lol:

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Post subject: Re: DRRI channel madness :D
Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 6:36 am
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viewtopic.php?f=13&t=74484

Whole thread on the same topic, should have all the answers you need!


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Post subject: Re: DRRI channel madness :D
Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 9:58 am
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Thanks for the link! Lots of good info there.

It seems that you can achieve some awesome tones when using both channels at the same time. Even if the channels receive the same signal and don't have different pedal chains.

End of my pedalboard is: Eventide Timefactor -> Eventide Space -> Boss RC-3 -> DRRI
So this gives me two choices:
1. place the big shot after the boss looper and use the "same" signal for both channels
2. place the big shot before Timefactor which is a dual delay so i can have both delays in their own signal and keep them separated through Space and Looper ( all pedals have "double" inputs and outputs ), so i could have different delay and reverb signals for both channels.

Would this work?
Would the Timefactor get upset if i feed it with two signals with different phases?

Thanks again!


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Post subject: Re: DRRI channel madness :D
Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 3:23 pm
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tottoro wrote:
Thanks for the link! Lots of good info there.

It seems that you can achieve some awesome tones when using both channels at the same time. Even if the channels receive the same signal and don't have different pedal chains.

End of my pedalboard is: Eventide Timefactor -> Eventide Space -> Boss RC-3 -> DRRI
So this gives me two choices:
1. place the big shot after the boss looper and use the "same" signal for both channels
2. place the big shot before Timefactor which is a dual delay so i can have both delays in their own signal and keep them separated through Space and Looper ( all pedals have "double" inputs and outputs ), so i could have different delay and reverb signals for both channels.

Would this work?
Would the Timefactor get upset if i feed it with two signals with different phases?

Thanks again!


I have no idea as I don't what those are. lol

Although some say the DRRI takes pedals well, I like the simplistic/natural sound of a single coil going through a Fender amp. The most Ill ever run through mine is the Big Shot which takes awhile to figure out how to EQ the amp, and maybe the MXR 10 band EQ and a chorus.

For my suggestions I might look at other speakers like the Cannabis Rex, tubes like the JJ 6V6's at the power tube section, and play with Jan Phillips 5751's in the pre stage points, or Tungsols or Sovteks to your liking. The most important thing is to make sure your Bias setting is correct.

Thank you Arjay and Bill. :P

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Post subject: Re: DRRI channel madness :D
Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 11:23 pm
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I think DRRI takes pedals really well. I also love the sound with just the guitar and the amp. That's my main clean sound. Then i just add some effects if needed. I have some nice "loops" in my pedal board so all unnecessary pedals don't have affect on the signal so i can have that "guitar to amp"-sound with my pedals. At least i don't hear any difference :D

I have Weber 12F50 speaker, TAD 6V6 power tubes, nice combo of JJ's and Tungsols in the preamp tubes and a 5751 in the V2. Bias is also set properly and the bright cap has ON/OFF switch :D

To be honest i'm already loving the sound that i'm getting, but i just started to wonder how would it change if i would use both channels at the same time.


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Post subject: Re: DRRI channel madness :D
Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 12:20 am
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Give it a try. I won't be going back to the single channels.

Hard to explain how the tones will come out.


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Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 12:56 am
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Haha i bet it is hard to explain :D

But would you say it makes the sound fatter?


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Post subject: Re: DRRI channel madness :D
Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 1:42 am
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tottoro wrote:
Haha i bet it is hard to explain :D

But would you say it makes the sound fatter?


That wasn't the tone I was looking for otherwise I would of bought a Marshall and a Les Paul. I wanted a more well rounded tone to go with my guitar that can give sounds that can emulate many guitars like a Strat, a Telecaster and a PRS.

I call it "Chinga Linga".

That bright shimmery tone something like the Ventures and that surf type sound.

My guitar is a Godin Velocity which is sometimes considered a "Super Strat" or whatever and I would guess you just have to set up your amp to get the tone you want from your guitar.

Are you playing a Strat?

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Post subject: Re: DRRI channel madness :D
Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 1:53 am
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yeah.. Mostly strats ( i have four :P ), sometimes semihollow ES-335 type guitar too.

Do you have some nice tips for me? :D


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tottoro wrote:
yeah.. Mostly strats ( i have four :P ), sometimes semihollow ES-335 type guitar too.

Do you have some nice tips for me? :D


Turn the knobs.

:D


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1I0jy1H5 ... re=related

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Post subject: Re: DRRI channel madness :D
Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 9:30 pm
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I have opined in the past on 2 things you might be interested in.

If you are using a Strat, You can see if this sparks your interest (and not too much $$):
http://www.rawvintage.com/eng/item_springs.php

I have used this Radio Shack Y-splitter in to both the #1 inputs of the Normal and Vibrato channels to what I feel is a better tone than the channel jump with the guitar plugged in to the #1 of one channel and a cable jumping the #2 of that channel in to the #1 of the other:
http://www.radioshack.com/product/index ... d=2103842#

The DRRI channel jump/splitter does have lots of "different" tones. You might like .... or not. However if you leave the DRRI intact as from the factory, the channels will be out of phase. But again, the tonal options are different from the channels straight in. You can adjust the volume on either channel where one channel seems to dominate, but blend, over the other. For example, the Normal channel volume on 6 and the Vibrato channel on 3 with Reverb on 9, seems to put a shadow reverb on the Normal channel. Or Vibrato at 7 and Normal at 4, makes the Vibrato seem "beefier". (Downside: both channels at the same volume sound like .... dammit.) HOWEVER, if you do a search on member Retroverbial and DRRI, you are likely to get the best there is to offer in amp info on this board (hint: "Fritz mod").


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Post subject: Re: DRRI channel madness :D
Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2012 2:28 am
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Interesting on those trem springs.

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