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Post subject: Fender Excelsior Pawn Shop high pitch ringing
Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 9:55 am
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Hi all,

Bought one of the new Pawn shop Excelsior tube amps. I didn't notice it the first week but I definitely hear a faint high pitch ringing when playing. I'm new to tube amps and was wondering if anyone had seen this before and if there's something I can do about it? I'm hoping to not have to return it, I had to wait 5 weeks for it.

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Post subject: Re: Fender Excelsior Pawn Shop high pitch ringing
Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 10:43 am
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Sounds like a microphonic tube issue.

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Post subject: Re: Fender Excelsior Pawn Shop high pitch ringing
Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 3:34 pm
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Ahhh, the first Pawn Shop amp complaint. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Post subject: Re: Fender Excelsior Pawn Shop high pitch ringing
Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 4:07 pm
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bluesky636 wrote:
Ahhh, the first Pawn Shop amp complaint. :lol: :lol: :lol:


"Unum de pluribus"

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Post subject: Re: Fender Excelsior Pawn Shop high pitch ringing
Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 9:25 pm
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bluesky636 wrote:
Ahhh, the first Pawn Shop amp complaint. :lol: :lol: :lol:


"Unum de pluribus"

:lol:

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Post subject: Re: Fender Excelsior Pawn Shop high pitch ringing
Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 7:14 am
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Post subject: Re: Fender Excelsior Pawn Shop high pitch ringing
Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 2:48 pm
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bluesky636 wrote:
Ahhh, the first Pawn Shop amp complaint. :lol: :lol: :lol:


Hey guys, let the games begin. :lol: All I want is the cabinet. Don't know why. Maybe because it reminds me of the old amps from the 40's and 50's. I'll build my own pawn shop amp though. Hopefully it'll only be tube issues, and not the HRD syndrome. It's a pretty cheap amp, so I doubt you'll find any top end components in there.

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Post subject: Re: Fender Excelsior Pawn Shop high pitch ringing
Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 12:22 pm
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63supro wrote:
It's a pretty cheap amp, so I doubt you'll find any top end components in there.


Well, the cheap amps, guitars and stompboxes from fifties, sixties and the seventies was not always equipped with top notch components either... in fact the Excelsior sounds much better than I thought and the looks is a bonus... It's not a vintage Marshall, Vox or even a vintage Fender but it is a great amp for blues and classic rock'n'roll...


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Post subject: Re: Fender Excelsior Pawn Shop high pitch ringing
Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 2:02 pm
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I do have some late 60's early 70's stompboxes that still work fine today. Never had an issue with them. Even the cheaper components way back were still better than the stuff coming out of Taiwan today. That's why you still have amps and old radios even from the 40's that still function today. Considering that pretty much all the amps back then were hand built, I you consider inflation, they weren't cheap at all. There is no comparison between the amps back then and the amps today except some of the higher end boutique amps. See how many Excelsior or HRD amps are around in fifty or sixty years as compared to the original Champs. :wink:

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Post subject: Re: Fender Excelsior Pawn Shop high pitch ringing
Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 12:13 am
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63supro wrote:
I do have some late 60's early 70's stompboxes that still work fine today. Never had an issue with them. Even the cheaper components way back were still better than the stuff coming out of Taiwan today. That's why you still have amps and old radios even from the 40's that still function today. Considering that pretty much all the amps back then were hand built, I you consider inflation, they weren't cheap at all. There is no comparison between the amps back then and the amps today except some of the higher end boutique amps. See how many Excelsior or HRD amps are around in fifty or sixty years as compared to the original Champs. :wink:


Well, you have got a point there... but you said it yourself "...they weren´t cheap at all." I guess they may be "the cheapest around" that survived. A lot of them didn't, especially the first wave of solid state amps. And another thing about stompboxes, some of the old ones didn't become good-sounding stompboxes until they were vintage. They talk about the right OP-amps in Tubescreamers (JRC4558s) and they were picked by Ibanez because they were the cheapest ones at that time...
Don't get me wrong I LOVE VINTAGE STUFF and would kill to have a real Tweed amp and an old 50's Telecaster... but some of the stuff back then were considered garbage back then and still ought to be... I believe I'm gonna get my head cut-off for this but I had to say it...


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Post subject: Re: Fender Excelsior Pawn Shop high pitch ringing
Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 5:26 am
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The very first solid state amps were pretty bad. It wasn't due to cheap parts or poor build quality though, it was because the new technology. Some of the old Kustom SS amps are still around. I almost walked out of GC with an old 100 last week. It was in decent shape with the tuck and roll covering. I'm not sure what the cad was loaded with. If the flippin thing would have fit in my car, I'd have it. Not saying it sounded good, buy I liked the cabinet. The rig was like $299. Here's another one. I have an old Guild Model Four amp that's solid state. I bought it in 1979 and it's built really well. Got it because it had a headphone jack. I installed an output jack use my Weber Z Matcher and run the thing through my two 112 Egnater cabs. It actually sounds pretty decent.

Remember, to factor in inflation. There's all kinds of inflation calculators out there. If I remember correctly, I think my father paid around $285 for my new 1966 Vibrolux Reverb. In today's dollars that comes out to $2021. Pretty steep huh? But I had that amp till 1989 when it was stolen. Not one single problem with it. My HRDlx on the other hand lasted three gigs and was also brand new. Cheap parts and poor cost cutting engineering appears to be a huge factor.

As far as vintage stuff. Some of the stuff is way better today especially guitars. Amps are all over the place. If you want a new version of a Fender amp that actually is built the way Leo intended it, go with Victoria. They're They have the finest components available today and a lifetime warranty. You get what you pay for and they won't cost you $8-12,000. Just sayin....

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