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Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 8:47 pm
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Maruuk,
Fender was there. This summer namm was "trade only" not open to the public. And Shane Nicholas was there! Read his post here:
http://www.fender.com/community/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1056&start=16

And here's the wish I posted today in the Lounge:

A MAC OSX/PC Fender Cyber Direct Recording Guitar Digital - Analog Interface or something like that with both analog and digital effets, build on an improved and now better than eve cyber engine, all that in a container like a POD or a Tonelab "a la" Fender, equiped with an editor (via USB, Firewire or MIDI).


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Maruuk,
Fender was there. This summer namm was "trade only" not open to the public. And Shane Nicholas was there! Read his post here:
http://www.fender.com/community/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1056&start=16

And here's the wish I posted today in the Lounge:

A MAC OSX/PC Fender Cyber Direct Recording Guitar Digital - Analog Interface or something like that with both analog and digital effets, build on an improved and now better than eve cyber engine, all that in a container like a POD or a Tonelab "a la" Fender, equiped with an editor (via USB, Firewire or MIDI).


+1 on that wish !

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Post subject: are there any *real* rumors from Fender???
Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 12:06 pm
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Are there any rumors about fender continuing the Cyber line or are they going to just give the market away to the others who are actively pursuing it?

I need to make a purchase soon and need to know what Fender has up its sleeve... Can't someone from Fender comment?????

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Sorry, I meant Fender had nothing new to show there. Yeah, everybody was there, there was a ton of shmoozing and inter-company interaction in Austin, just very little in the way of new goodies to ogle. We have to wait til Winter NAMM. That should be fun.

You raise really interesting points, guys! Where is the excellent Cyber engine headed next product-wise? Where is USB direct record in the G-DEC series? Or the CT-SE? Where is realtime PC editing? Tone support? An online community with Fender-captive star presets and grooves and tons of user-generated tones and presets and grooves? Too much to ask you say???

Line 6 doesn't think so.


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Does anyone know why the CD and CC were discontinued after such a short run? I love my Champ!


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Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 5:10 pm
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Fender still means Stratocaster, Telecaster and Twin amp in anybody's mind. So even if the Cybers sound better than any modelers outthere, Fender is not enough agressive to take its place in this market. Their cybers are too pricey, imho. Fender is still a "no name" in this area.

The cybers were not selling very well simply. Even the Cybe-Twin SE dont sell very well and will be discontinued shortly according to me. All the R&D was put toward the G and B-Dec. Good product but still there, the competition is strong.

The Cybers ARE very good products but too pricy. In fact they are just too well built!!! Just take a look at the VOX ADxxVT series. Not really better, just differents but way cheaper (because of a lower quality).

That's the way it is. Fender still means quality, so you have to pay for. Nobodys wants a Cyber? No problems. Fender will simply stop buildind them.


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Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 11:34 am
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I think it took the G-DEC series to finally wake a broader market up to just how good the Cyber engine is! You make an excellent point about price: The CD was just too expensive and seriously up in the quality tube-amp range. And the affordable yet still excellent CC was hurt by lack of an included F/S.

It's funny, the cheapster little G-DEC Jr. actually wormholes you right up to CT-world with real KNOBS you can twiddle and still sounds great even given its preset limitations.

Frankly, the tedious paging hassles of the G-DEC original and G-DEC 30 and Bass version need to go away, replaced by a superset of the Jr's knobs. That's why folks like the CT, you can twiddle. That's what humans do.

Next-gen G-DEC simply needs to cop a page from little Jr: this is a product about plug in n' play. Grab a few knobs and go. This is not the Mars Explorer control room. Products which sell well are usually more knobs and less hassle. User friendly.

And next-gen cries out for direct USB recording. I mean, this is one h-e-double hockey sticks of an engine! I would love to record it direct into my DAW! Especially with a quick-tweak amp-style front end. And of course once Fender has USB, we'll all have realtime PC editing.

As much as a washout as Austin was, Winter NAMM is shaping up into a major Christmas in January experience for us all. Expect Fender to keep evolving their cyber-tech.


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"Direct USB recording" is a great idea for amps. As far as I know, only the Crate Profiler model has it.


http://www.crateamps.com/products/pindex.php?prodID=17

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Yeah, exactly, I'm planning to pick up one of those cheap-as-dirt Crate Profiler 5's just for fun and maybe even record some final tracks with it direct to DAW. They supposedly hit the market 8/31. Thing is, the speakers will give you direct monitoring with no latency and you get actual knobs to tweak your sound for the recording--rather than mouse around on the screen with page after page of rocket science virtual knobs. Gimme amp knobs any day over that nonsense. Time is money, creativity needs to be more in your fingers and less in cyberland. If this thing sounds like anything, it may end up my goto recording rig!


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Perhaps Fender needs to release a Cyber Deluxe or Gdec head or rack unit. A Gdec would make a great single space rack unit.

I was thinking about the comment "Fender means Strat...." I think they may be on to something. I also think the music world has a split in the market. One side wants simplisity and the other side wants a full set of features. Fender may not have found the right marketing medium for the full featured croud.

I have a feeling rack units will come back into style in the next 3 or 4 years. Then the full featured products will be able to stand on their own. Right now, we are still in the the simple combo swing of the market, but things are changing. Giant pedal boards are back. Next is the rack units with foot controlers.


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Well you know another factor that makes a head unit or at least a POD-like device more feasible is the simple fact that existing G-DECs sound like caca through their own wimpy little speakers but sound spectacular through headphones or any good monitoring system. Thus, save a few bucks, weight and form factor by just going the head/POD route.


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