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Post subject: FENDER CYBER-DELUXE
Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 4:53 pm
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According to many, the Cyber-Deluxe sounds even better than the Cyber-twin or Twin SE. I used it in my home studio with great safisfaction and pleasure.

So to anyone interested by this Fender amp, the Fender Cyber-Deluxe, here's a moderated (100% spam free) Yahoo group where you can find anything about it and more!

The Cyber-Deluxe online ressource: http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/Cyber-Deluxe/join


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Post subject: Cyber Deluxe Patch Editor
Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 8:36 am
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Howdy SQ+ !!!!

Has anyone come up with a good Cyber Deluxe software patch editor? The Cakewalk tool does OK but is not interactive. I have a GDec 30 also and that has a nice simple editor supplied by Fender. It is a shame that Fender did not provide such a powerful tool to go with such a great amp. Please let me know if anyone has a Cyber Deluxe Patch Editor!!!

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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 8:53 am
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Hello Mark!

To my knowledge such an editor never saw the light. Everything - and when I say everything it's really everything !- about the Cyber-Deluxe can be found on the Cyber-Deluxe Online Ressource yahoo group. So you'll find there all the infos to build and editor if you have strong programming skills!

I began to write an editor but finally give up due to the lack of time and skills !!! :P

I'm not using the Cyber-D anymore but I'm still waiting from Fender something like a "Cyber Pod" ... with an editor please! 8)

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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 10:17 am
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There is no question Fender missed the boat by not supporting the Cyber series with a USB-connected realtime editor. They have one for G-DEC but incredibly, it's not realtime! Duh. How are you supposed to tweak your sound to taste?

Here is a great product that should debut in Austin next week: Call it the Cyber Pro combo: the same excellent 65-watt SS amp, same 12" speaker, but an upgraded cyber engine--basically a downsized CTSE engine with 12AX7 but here's the kicker, unlike the Cyber Champ, ship it with a good pedal, something like a Digitech RP250. Volume pedal, three button bank and preset switching, remote tuner built in like the G-DEC 30 has.

But mainly a realtime USB-connected PC editor. With extensive online support and rock stars contributing their fave custom presets. And DIRECT RECORDING via USB.

Build it in China and street it for $499. Sell a bazillion. And cut me in for a reasonable 3% of net.

See, I'm a tube guy but I like and respect the Fender cyber engine. It even works like crazy in the lowly G-DEC series. It needs to be out there in an affordable combo and in a mid-sized head config as well. But only with the above features.

Fender needs to pay way more attention to Line 6s super-deep and incredibly well-supported Guitarport series and how all the pedal modelers are hooking up USB not just for realtime editing, but DIRECT RECORDING as well.

Ok, better make that 4%.


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Post subject: carpe cyber!
Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 10:54 am
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I like that idea!! I would buy that (or wish that is what I bought). It seems like Fender did not fully embrace the market opportunity. Their Cyber engine is one of the best (if not the best) but for some reason they did not seize the computer-controlled aspects of their line and provide easy to use tools, a really good easy to use foot pedal (as opposed to the Fender floor pedal) as well as computer/internet interfacing that encourages patch creation and exchange. When you look at the Cyber Deluxe forums on FDP and Yahoo you see a user group that wants to embrace all that it has to offer, but the shine has gone off it since it has not moved forward (and has actually been orphaned by Fender). So instead of a cult-like loyal band of owners, we are instead saddened that we have this amazing tool at our fingertips that Fender has left to die on the vine.

Let's push our ideas directly to Fender and see if we can get their attention.

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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 1:26 pm
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Hey, this is the place!

The CTSE is a terrific product, but far too pricey and far too heavy for casual club gigging at small bars and clubs. The size/weight/power config of the discontinued Cyber-Deluxe and Champ are ideal for clubbing. I mean, in the real world, YOU (not some 300 lb roadie) have to carry your amp and guitar 3 blocks from where you parked and up 3 flights of stairs to get to the gig. Let's get real here, we can handle 35 lbs. Not 61 lbs.

Ironically the discontinued CT head was only 30 lbs. Add in a little 1-12 cab and that's entertainment!

A lot of good Fender loyalists were disappointed with the killing of the CD and the CC combos. But this can all get turned around with a sterling effort from Fender featuring all of the above.

These days, leaving out USB, realtime editing and direct recording from a sophisticated digital modeling product is not just unacceptable from a consumer standpoint...it's downright ampicide. I wonder what the future will bring...will bring...will bring...(ripple wipe)

"What's that in the corner covered in cobwebs and moldy candy bar wrappers Mr. Guitar Center salesman?"

"Why that's the 2008 Fender Cyber Pro, Maruuk! They forgot the pedal and the USB. I hear tell, they ain't sold a one of em in 3 years! I'll let you have it for...$17.50 out the door."

"Naw. The other kids'd laugh at me. I'll take that Line 6 product THAT HAS ALL THAT onboard for $2299.99. If only Fender had brought something similar to Austin back in '07...back in '07...back in '07..." (ripple wipe back to...)

Andy Rossi looks at Shane. A light goes on. "What was that???" "A light switch." "Oh." "You know there's still time to mock up the Cyber Pro in a 3-D printer in styrofoam for Austin!!! They do that with cars you know, why not amps?"

The rest, as we in 2010 know, was history. Andy was made president of FMI, and Shane kept modeling hi-gain presets for G-DECs. All was right with the world.


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Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 8:59 am
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I've been diggin' the cyber-series amps. I've heard that at the Summer Namm show, Fender may unveil a "new" model, the Cyber-Pro. :?:


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Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 10:02 am
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I'm kinda new here but I don't get it are you in piece w/ your CD or are you not?
I like mine and it was a bargain. And I can't believe that you can talk about Line6 'cause when I say to someone that I have CD he goes like: dude it's not a real amp. And that is because they've heard the Line6 products. But when they hear the CD they change their mind quickly.

Yeah I wish there was like an exp. pedal incl. but you can allways by additional equipment and the best of it is that you can choose any vol. or/and exp. pedal and any midi footswitch on the market


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Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 11:02 am
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The Cyber Champ sounds great too, it just has a limited feature set but like I say, its real dealkiller was the lack of an included 4-button FS like the CD had. But for blues guys or roots rock players who didn't need a huge bunch of tonal and efx options, the dirt-cheap CC would have been just peachy if it had a footswitch. Paying an addition $230 or so for the Big Pedal kind of defeated the whole point of an inexpensive cyber-engine amp.

NEW COOL DIY DEPT: Guys who love the cyber engine but are low on cash (I wouldn't know anyone like that, would you?) are now taking the $179 G-DEC Jr. with its hip amp-like knobs and just running it into a Crate Power Block head ($49 or so on eBay) and some old 12" spkr cab and viola: A POOR MAN'S CT!

Note to Fender: Guys are already making their own affordable Cyber Pros out of found objects--why not BRING US ONE AT NAMM!?


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Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 1:22 pm
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I love my Deluxe. I got to play with someone with a Mesa 5:50. I matched him sound for sound. Then I jumped to preset 19 and played "Fender." He couldn't follow.

I think for the hobbiest or home recording guy, the Deluxe is perfect. For the average musicial on the road, I think the Deluxe is too complicated. Think about it. How long did each of us spend getting to know this peice of equipment? I think it is an outstanding product for me; with a day job, playing for fun and at church. For the working musician, I don't think it fits. I think the original price is more than fair for what you get. It's just too complex and needs too much time to discover its potential for the working guy.

For those of us with hours to play around looking for sounds, I think the G-Dec interface is significantly better. Especially the part where selecting an amp type or effect resets all the perameters to be the most common settings for your selection. Unless you are fishing for a specific sound, you rearly need to go more than 2 layers into a menu. It was clearly designed for practice, lessons and home entertainment.

Bringing back the Cyber Deluxe would certainly be nice, but I don't see the business case. A G-Dec head with both line and speaker outs and an optional full range cabinate (book shelf stereo speaker) would probably be a bigger winner in the marketplace.


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Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 2:38 pm
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Or how about something similar to the G-DEC Jr's sweet ergonomic amp knobs in a Cyber Head with the 65-watt power amp from the CD & CC. Thus you could tweak the gain and EQ and reverb in a flash (something very tedious in the original G-DEC and G-DEC 30) and punch through the preset models via a simple FS. Quick, cheap, simple and did I say cheap? I'll say it again...CHEEEEEP! (but good)


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Post subject: Thanks to Stratquebec!
Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 3:58 pm
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Stratquebec... you and all of your helpful info was instrumental (pun intended) in buying a CD years ago.

I gig and record with it and I haven't outgrown it. The more experience I have with it the more useable sounds it reveals. So fun!

Anyway, I'll report that I've ordered a Weber 1265 AlNiCO to replace the celestion... looking for a bit creamier sound with some compression at higher volumes. Since most of my patches have low treble settings, I figure I'll be able to make up a little high-end if I miss it. Also going to put in a "Beam-blocker".

I'll report as soon as I give the 1265 a good workout.

Pretty fancy new forum for Fender eh?

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Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 1:13 pm
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The Cyber-Deluxe might be my next purchase, depending on what's new from the Summer-NAMM show ?


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Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 2:56 pm
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I can tell you what happened in Austin: NUTHIN! Fender was a no-show, low attendance, no cool amps, a huge bust. If you're looking to get a CD on eBay or Craig's list, go for it! Fender won't have anything to replace it until at least January.


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Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 7:00 pm
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Echo Workerbee's comments: great amp, not practical for most musicians. Thanks to many years of FDP support, I am happy to own a CD with some killer patches - as well as a much better working knowledge of the amp. However, in day to day (make that week to week) gigging, the HRDV 410 is the amp of choice.

I do bring the CD as a backup, but rarely use it live any more.


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