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Post subject: DRRI stock tubes?
Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 11:52 am
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Does anyone know what brand of tubes come stock in a new DRRI?

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Post subject: Re: DRRI stock tubes?
Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 6:01 pm
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Post subject: Re: DRRI stock tubes?
Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 7:01 pm
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Mine came stock w/Sovtek preamp, Electro Harmonix Power, & Ruby Rectifier tubes. All w/Groove Tube labels.


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Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 12:16 pm
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mine has electro harmonix./groove tubes for output tubes (one has open heater already) And the rectifier tube (which went bad also) is a sovtek...with no groove tube markings on it.

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Post subject: Re: DRRI stock tubes?
Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 12:44 pm
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Thanks for your replies.

Here's another question: Many members of other forums suggest that the stock tubes are garbage and that swapping them out for new JJs, Tung-Sols or, better yet, NOS tubes will result in a dramatic improvements. Some even go as far as to say that the stock power tubes could cause damage to the amp! I've also read that the tubes/amp is biased very cold from the factory and must be adjusted. What are your feelings on these points?

For the record, I'm not in a position with my current band to turn the amp up to the distortion point so I will be primarily be running it clean with pedals to provide the dirt. Nor do I have "golden ears" ie. subtle differences won't make me jump up and shout "hallelujah"!

Thanks again for your input.

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Post subject: Re: DRRI stock tubes?
Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 1:31 pm
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In my case, i bought the amp brand new in 09. after i found it was a bit too loud to play in my room, i bought a new vibro champ XD amp and, have been using that amp exclusively. but i do not think i even have 10 hours playing time on my deluxe reverb. One day a few weeks ago, i decided to get her out and play thru her a bit. something sounded not quite right with it so, i looked in the back and noticed that one of the 6v6 output tubes was not lit and, cold to the touch. After trying reseating the tube, still no luck so i removed tube and checked it on my tube tester. The heater filament was open on that tube but, i went ahead and checked the other 6v6 output tube and the rectifier tube. The 6v6 came up as new but, the rectifier tube showed that only one section was working the other section was dead (i verified it by testing on another tube tester too) So, till summer, she sits in the closet covered up till i get set of jj's for her.

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Post subject: Re: DRRI stock tubes?
Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 2:55 pm
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spinnrade wrote:
Thanks for your replies.

Here's another question: Many members of other forums suggest that the stock tubes are garbage and that swapping them out for new JJs, Tung-Sols or, better yet, NOS tubes will result in a dramatic improvements. Some even go as far as to say that the stock power tubes could cause damage to the amp! I've also read that the tubes/amp is biased very cold from the factory and must be adjusted. What are your feelings on these points?

For the record, I'm not in a position with my current band to turn the amp up to the distortion point so I will be primarily be running it clean with pedals to provide the dirt. Nor do I have "golden ears" ie. subtle differences won't make me jump up and shout "hallelujah"!

Thanks again for your input.

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JJ's are an excellent choice, and yes, the amp is biased cold from the factory and should be adjusted properly once a good set of tubes are installed.

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Post subject: Re: DRRI stock tubes?
Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 3:23 pm
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Why wait for new tubes? It could be as beneficial to set the bias properly before trying new tubes, as it would be to get new tubes and then set the bias.

The difference between types of output tubes is not usually huge, and comparing a set that isn't biased properly to a new set with proper bias, is not an accurate/fair comparison of tubes.

This seems to contribute to the many myths about new tubes sounding so much better than the old ones, since the new ones have the advantage of being biased properly, and the originals were not. A good example is replacing the "S" version of GTs (cold biased from factory) with JJs and attributing a "better" sound with the JJs and a proper bias.......umm, both tubes are made in the same factory. :idea:

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Post subject: Re: DRRI stock tubes?
Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 5:33 pm
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WARNING!!! JJ will not sound like 6V6, and Tung-Sols have had issues lately...

If you don't want to spend money on NOS tubes consider the TAD 6V6, they do sound great IMO.


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Post subject: Re: DRRI stock tubes?
Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 6:05 pm
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EHX also sells a pretty good 6V6GTA.

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Post subject: Re: DRRI stock tubes?
Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 6:26 pm
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Retroverbial wrote:
EHX also sells a pretty good 6V6GTA.

Arjay

+1 they're not bad actually, but the TADs went back in... I'm actually running the TADs in the 75 DR right now, giving the RCAs a break :)


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Post subject: Re: DRRI stock tubes?
Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 2:43 am
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I hate to say it but I took her to rehearsal tonight, totally stock, and she KICKED $@!!! Had it up to around 6.5 on the #2 input on the vibrato channel-totally clean. Enough to raise the roof here at home and no one in the band asked me to turn it down. I also got several compliments on the sound. I think shimmilou is right. Get it biased properly. If it sounds great, what is the point of new tubes or a new speaker. (Though JJs are supposed to be indestructible. I wouldn't want to have a failure in the middle of a gig.)

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Post subject: Re: DRRI stock tubes?
Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 6:06 am
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Retroverbial wrote:
EHX also sells a pretty good 6V6GTA.

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Yup!

Have had them in mine for a few months now...reminds me that I wanted to check the bias to see if it had drifted. Make mental note...no write it down. :lol:

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Post subject: Re: DRRI stock tubes?
Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 6:10 am
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So much for those that told you that the "stock tubes were garbage". :lol:

I agree that the EH are great tubes, among my favorites for new production, sound great, tough as nails, priced right.

Don't kid yourself about JJs being indestructible, they fare just like every other tube manufacturer, they have good ones and bad ones, maybe worse for their rectifiers. I've read the comments by Egnater about why they stopped using JJ tubes. I would say that the tubes from the Reflector plant in Russia (marketed by New Sensor, a US company) are as close to indestructible tubes as there are, as far as new production. These include Sovtek, EH, Tung Sol, among many others. The Reflector plant seems to be acquiring more brands all the time. As you might have guessed, I'm a fan of Reflector tubes. GT uses the Reflector made tubes quite a bit, and if your amp has GTs, odds are that they are tubes from the Reflector plant. 8)

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Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 9:05 am
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In my post above about what happend to the one output and the rectifier tubes in my deluxe reverb, i was not really knocking the tube brands. i just figgured that the ones in mine prob came from a bad batch...Before the tubes blew, the sound was great.

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