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Post subject: to standby? or not to stand by.
Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 7:46 pm
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Hello Everyone, I will make it short and sweet here. I have a vibro champ xd amp (almost 2 yrs old now) I absoutly love it. i was wondereing if i should mount a standby switch into it. Would it be better on the tubes? ..Has anyone ever done it before on one of these amps?...Thanx in advance.

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Post subject: Re: to standby? or not to stand by.
Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:39 pm
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Some amps have a standby switch, some don't.

Some people use the standby switch, some don't.

This is a very touchy subject with lots of strong opinions.

Your amp doesn't have a standby switch because that is how it was designed. Be happy and just make music with it. :D

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Post subject: Re: to standby? or not to stand by.
Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 4:49 am
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Standby is ( very ? ) usefull for saving tubes and when giging. The Vibro Champ XD with printed circuit are not easy to work / modify to install Standby switch ( $$ ) .

Don't spend money on that. Probably less expensive to replace tubes when nedded.


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Post subject: Re: to standby? or not to stand by.
Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 5:56 am
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bluesky636 wrote:
Some amps have a standby switch, some don't.

Some people use the standby switch, some don't.

This is a very touchy subject with lots of strong opinions.

Your amp doesn't have a standby switch because that is how it was designed. Be happy and just make music with it. :D

A standby switch is on an amp for a reason,and strong opinions don't change the function of it,it's a simple process to operate a tube amp with it,and I don't understand why people can't figure it out.....I guess for the same reasons that people want a tube amp to get a tone they're looking for but never learn the first thing about tubes....it's like driving a car without knowing why you put oil in it.


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Post subject: Re: to standby? or not to stand by.
Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 6:22 am
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+ 100 Rebelsoul,

If you understand ( realy understand ) how tubes amps and Stanby switch work, you always use it and buy an amp with.


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Post subject: Re: to standby? or not to stand by.
Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 7:08 am
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Thanks for the responses back. I know it is kinda silly question in a way because, i have experience with tube gear but, mostly were stereo or radio/audio circuits. the question (or thought ponder lol) i know what the standby switch does and, my drrl has one but i have not used the drrl in quite sometime. i been using the v.c. because its pretty loud in this small room and easier to haul around the house when needed. but, sometimes, i will only plug and play for couple minutes to half hour then, thats it all day. i have a solidstate orange crush 10 that i been using for that purpose so i can just turn it on and off at will but, the guitars sound much better thru the v.c. amp and i guess im trying to figgure if its better to put standby switch on it or just let it be and buy tubes when these go bad. guess that since it did not come with one, i will leave it like that. thank you all again.

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Post subject: Re: to standby? or not to stand by.
Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 8:52 am
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Adding a standby switch is a relatively simple procedure -- all that's required is some AWG22 multi-strand wire and a SP/ST toggle switch rated for 4A-250V. The problem is finding a suitable location (presumably on the amp's rear panel) to mount the switch. Adding this convenience would most definitely be considered a "mod" and would void the amp's warranty -- if that's of any import to you.

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Post subject: Re: to standby? or not to stand by.
Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 1:12 pm
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You can also use a Carling Toggle Switch, power and standby all in one. I use them .

http://tubedepot.com/p-dpst-3way.html


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Post subject: Re: to standby? or not to stand by.
Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 7:27 pm
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Hmmmm, wow. So I guess anyone that owns an amp that was designed and built over the last 60 years that DOESN'T have a standby switch should immediately go out and add one? So Leo and Vox and many other manufacturers that didn't put standby switches on their amps was wrong? I have one amp (my BDRI Reissue) with a standby switch and I use it religiously. I have another amp (my Champion 600) that doesn't and it doesn't worry me in the least. And yeah, based on the responses here, this is a touchy subject. There are arguments on TGP all the time about if one should or shouldn't use the standby switch. Makes for interesting reading. :lol:

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Post subject: Re: to standby? or not to stand by.
Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 8:02 pm
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bluesky636 wrote:
So I guess anyone that owns an amp that was designed and built over the last 60 years that DOESN'T have a standby switch should immediately go out and add one?


I've carefully read all the posts within this thread three times and nowhere did I find that statement or even an inference to it.

Where's this coming from -- "invisible pixels" or something typed between the lines that I'm not perceptive enough to discern?

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Post subject: Re: to standby? or not to stand by.
Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 8:34 pm
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Retroverbial wrote:
bluesky636 wrote:
So I guess anyone that owns an amp that was designed and built over the last 60 years that DOESN'T have a standby switch should immediately go out and add one?


I've carefully read all the posts within this thread three times and nowhere did I find that statement or even an inference to it.

Where's this coming from -- "invisible pixels" or something typed between the lines that I'm not perceptive enough to discern?

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"Don't spend money on that. Probably less expensive to replace tubes when nedded." - I agree with this statement.

"Standby is ( very ? ) usefull for saving tubes and when giging." - Implies that a standby switch is a good thing to have.

"A standby switch is on an amp for a reason,and strong opinions don't change the function of it,it's a simple process to operate a tube amp with it,and I don't understand why people can't figure it out" - I don't disagree with this statement .... for an amp that has a standby switch. Again the implication is that a standby switch is a good thing to have.

"If you understand ( realy understand ) how tubes amps and Stanby switch work, you always use it and buy an amp with." - This can't be any more clear ... You should buy an amp with a standby switch. The implication is that if an amp does not have one, it is not worthy of purchase.

"Adding a standby switch is a relatively simple procedure -- all that's required is some AWG22 multi-strand wire and a SP/ST toggle switch rated for 4A-250V." - Why tell someone how to add a switch if it wasn't thought to be necessary?

"You can also use a Carling Toggle Switch, power and standby all in one. I use them ." - Why tell someone how to add a switch if it wasn't thought to be necessary?

The OP didn't ask how to add a standby switch, he asked if he should. The way I read all the responses is that he should.

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Post subject: Re: to standby? or not to stand by.
Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 8:40 pm
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Insufficient evidence, suit dismissed, next case -- baliff, show the plantiff out.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Post subject: Re: to standby? or not to stand by.
Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 8:42 pm
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Retroverbial wrote:
Insufficient evidence, suit dismissed, next case -- baliff, show the plantiff out.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

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I guess we'll just have to disagree.

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Post subject: Re: to standby? or not to stand by.
Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 8:45 pm
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Yes......

You seem to be disagreeing with everyone in this thread.

Methinks thou doth protest too much.

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Post subject: Re: to standby? or not to stand by.
Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 9:02 pm
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Yes......

You seem to be disagreeing with everyone in this thread.

Methinks thou doth protest too much.

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Well, I guess if I accept your claim that no one is recommending adding a standby switch, then by this statement from one of my earlier posts in this thread, I am agreeing with everyone:

"I have one amp (my BDRI Reissue) with a standby switch and I use it religiously. I have another amp (my Champion 600) that doesn't and it doesn't worry me in the least. "

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