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Post subject: Re: Blues Junior advice
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 8:34 am
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You're obviously secure in your decision to buy an amp you've never played.


"Finally, I went to a number of music shops and played a few."


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Post subject: Re: Blues Junior advice
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 8:45 am
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...As far as Egnater amps go, I will likely never try one simply because I don't like the word "Egnater."....


Would that make you an "Eghater"? :lol: :lol:

Is an artist that promotes Egnater amps called and "Egpimper"? :lol: :lol:

Would an amp that is better than an Egnater be called an "Egbeater"? :lol: :lol:

What's another name for a chicken? An "Egmaker" :lol: :lol:

I got a million of 'em..... :lol:

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Post subject: Re: Blues Junior advice
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 8:53 am
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However, at times I feel like it can be too complicated when I just want to quickly sit down and practice, or grab an amp to jam with friends. As a result, I have talked myself into adding a Blues Junior to my collection. I have read countless reviews, and I think that this is the best amp for me.

A BJ might be a good idea if you want to keep things simple, I like the simplicity of a guitar and a tube amp and nothing else in between... my only issue with the BJ is the lack of clean headroom and the small cab, makes it sound too boxy, no speaker swap will fix that, a external and bigger cab will help for sure. Another option is to find a used DRRI (Deluxe Reverb Reissue), they go for about $600, probably the best grab n go tube amp out there.


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Post subject: Re: Blues Junior advice
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:03 am
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Actually Jim IS a "bastion of objectivity". I know Jim from other forums and have corresponded with him personally too. He does quite a bit of commercial work and makes his living at it full time. He's telling the truth about being an Egnater Artist. He hasn't been an Egnater Artist for very long and he's the one who recommended the Egnater Rebel 20 to me two years ago. I never looked back. He has a vast knowledge of equipment and recording techniques and most of all tone.

Who's Little Miss Higgins anyway and what do Google hits have to do with anything? Rebecca Black has that silly Friday song and she has over a million hits. Is Little Miss Higgins your band? If it is great. A commercial artist is different than a touring artist. Every commercial on TV and the radio rely on them. Movie soundtracks too. Do they get the credit? Not usually on commercials anyway. I'm a commercial photographer. I make a decent living and get no photo recognition for a lot of my work. Some of my food shots are on packaging all over the country but my name isn't. Am I famous nope but you may have seen my work in a catalog or grocery store. It's the way commercial businesses work.

The difference between a professional and an amateur is a professional won't take an opinion about his equipment personally. They just call it as they see it, heard it or played it ow worked with it. It's not a family member, to a professional it's a tool to get a job done. Professionals need equipment that's reliable day after day and it needs to be versatile and sound great. Personal attacks on people because of a difference of opinion on equipment are unwarranted.

Maybe we need not only a geezer section, but a professional discussion section on the forum as well.

mw13068, no offense but his statement isn't laughable.

I bought my HRDlx because it said Fender on it. A name I trusted and relied on for over 40 years. I bought it because I thought it had potential and was different than any Fender amp I've ever owned. I was wrong on all counts. It had some very serious reliability issues. I could never dial in my tone. I could with every other Fender amp I've ever owned. I finally got rid of it.

We all have different ears and opinions. They are only opinions but some people on the forum take opinions way too personally and turn them into personal attacks so many including myself get baited into stupid heated name calling arguments. It all needs to stop. If you've never heard someones work, how can a person criticize them?


Shim, we get it. You love your HRD..... and GT's. Fine. People are allowed to have opinions other than yours. You are not always right. None of us are. Stop dissecting posts and misquoting peoples posts. You don't really seem to read them completely before you respond. We're all guilty of it but your responses usually always trigger arguments. Everyone's Biorhythms must be off or something. :lol:

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Post subject: Re: Blues Junior advice
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:12 am
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No bitterness here! As 63Supro says, my opinions are, as much as humanly possible, devoid of loyalism, emotion or desire. I don't care what name is on a piece of gear, how it looks, or how it makes me feel: I just need the damn thing to work. If it doesn't, I get rid of it and warn other people away.

Now, if you've developed an emotional attachment to a brand or an object, and that brand or object hasn't let you down, fine. I'm just sharing my experience. But I sure don't give two flips if someone ignores me. And I'm sure not going to get into one of those mindless "you-said-oh-no-that's-not-what-i-said-and YOU-said" BS argument on a guitar forum. Hell, that's about 98% of what's wrong with these forums in the first place.

The OP asked for BJr. advice, and I gave him mine. He doesn't want to hear that, so... okay. Blow your money any way you like. :)

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Post subject: Re: Blues Junior advice
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:27 am
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No Eglayer, he asked for speaker opinions. :idea:

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Post subject: Re: Blues Junior advice
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:34 am
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Yeah whatever Shimitroll.

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Post subject: Re: Blues Junior advice
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:50 am
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EgFryer wrote:
I just need the damn thing to work. If it doesn't, I get rid of it and warn other people away.


The first part of this statement makes sense. You need it to work for YOU. If it doesn't work for you, you jump to the conclusion that the amp has no value, and that nobody should like it.


I just noticed that the OP's message was posted on Sun Dec 26, 2010 6:24 am

EgFryer's response was Fri Jul 29, 2011 5:26 am, seven months later.

Is this part of a social network marketing clause in the "Egnater Artist" agreement?


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Post subject: Re: Blues Junior advice
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 10:33 am
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First off, Many members who are new or been away for a while resurrect old posts without realizing it. With nine posts, maybe you should try getting to know some members before insulting them. It has nothing to do with Egnater. The Blues Jr could probably be the most modded amp in Fender history.
Billm made a little cottage industry modding these amps. He even had mod for the BJ III not long after it came out.

I can't see what's so wrong about suggesting something else. I my profession, another photographer noticed I used a lot of Kodak Professional film. He suggested I try Ilford and Fuji and see how I liked it. I loved it. Because of his suggestion, the quality of my prints and transparencies went through the roof and so did my sales because of it. I changed and never looked back. The "Great Yellow Father" was history with my business. I process all my own work. Film, transparencies and prints. I post process and print all my digital work also.

Same thing here. It's all about marketing and illusion. Fender is great at marketing, no doubt about it. Flashy ads, professional endorsements, the works. Ever notice Jeff Beck now hand a Fender banner on his stage? They're paid endorsements. Free gear and cash. Egnater Artists get nothing for free. They get a listing on the web site. People who use Egnater amps do so because they love the products they sell. They're built well, reliable and versatile.

Now here's the illusion. Billm has tons of musicians that were perfectly happy with their amps before they heard of him convinced they now sound like garbage if they don't use his mods. That's Funny.
Here's another tip. If you want to sound like a professional HRD amp tech, go here

http://www.justinholton.com/hotrod/

Study this stuff, and you too can be a professional HRD amp tech. I never professed to be some genius amp tech. I'm very mechanically inclined, studied some electronics and industrial electricity and can fix my own cars too. :lol: I always repaired the obvious blown parts on my amps and a TV repair guy showed me biasing and other stuff.

Anyway what this rant is about is don't be afraid to try new tools. You may really be surprised. Even this old dog learned some new tricks. :wink: Thanks EgFryer!

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Post subject: Re: Blues Junior advice
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 10:35 am
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GAWD, I SOOOOO LOVE A PARADE......

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Post subject: Re: Blues Junior advice
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 11:19 am
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Arjay pass the popcorn :lol: Seriously though , as a present blues jr owner ,i hate the way it sounds with the strat. There is almost no low end on the thing. The reason I still have it is I can get some decent tones out of it with my les paul.I mostly take it to rehearsals and occasional blues jams.Its light and in some situations you wont get buried in the mix.With money being tight right now I am holding on to it . Eventually maybe an AC 15 or tweaker combo.I use my deluxe reverb to gig with and always get good tones no matter what I plug into it . Its reliable as can be too. The OP mentioned to someone if they thought the Bjr was responsive try a good amp.Hes right ,the drri is smoother and tighter than the blues jr ,by far.You can try to mod the crap out of it to get it to sound the way you like, but your best bet is save up and buy the best amp you can afford.


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Post subject: Re: Blues Junior advice
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 11:20 am
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mw13068 wrote:
Is this part of a social network marketing clause in the "Egnater Artist" agreement?


Nope. I just think the BloozeJr sucks. You won't see me telling people not to buy a DRRI or a Supersonic.

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Post subject: Re: Blues Junior advice
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 1:11 pm
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You can try to mod the crap out of it to get it to sound the way you like, but your best bet is save up and buy the best amp you can afford.


+1

That's always been my observation.

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Post subject: Re: Blues Junior advice
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 1:15 pm
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What's up gang? Supro, did you recruit help for your mission? The good people can't discuss thoughts about amps without being piled on by "expert" nay-sayers. It smothers us non-experts out. Take it easy on us, OK?


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Post subject: Re: Blues Junior advice
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 3:14 pm
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OK, so it looks like things got interesting here while I was out today.

Typically when I make a purchase, I try to find out as much info as I can. In this case, it seems that my local guitar shop only carries the basic black Blues Jr, or a relic model. (I can't wrap my head around the concept of buying a relic) I have tried the basic model, but it seems that currently the tweed or the other brown model are special for the big stores, and I have not been able to find one within a reasonable drive. That is why I was asking about the differences in the models and speakers rather than just go play one.

I am a total amateur, and as such, I am always learning and I am not always aware of all of the options out there. I will say that the Egnater has piqued my interest, and I spent a good part of my work day looking at them on the web. I will say this- I WILL play one of these before I decide on making a purchase.

this begs another question: in this price range, what other options should I consider for a tube amp?


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