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Post subject: Re: Fender Twin Amp
Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 4:49 pm
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Thanks for the link. I've researched this amp and think it is amazing, but I don't feel it has the versatility of a Fender Twin. Still, an amazing amp.


Uh......that is a "Fender Twin", sir. The original, in fact.

I skipped school the week they taught mind-reading so when you figure out WTF it is that you think you need, you holler and we'll try to advise appropriately.

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What's the big need to defend your amp. He said he thought it was a great one, just not for him. It would have been nice if you guys would have simply answered his very direct question with a similarly direct answer. I'm surprised he didn't just tell you to F-off.


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Post subject: Re: Fender Twin Amp
Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 5:20 pm
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What's the big need to defend your amp. He said he thought it was a great one, just not for him. It would have been nice if you guys would have simply answered his very direct question with a similarly direct answer. I'm surprised he didn't just tell you to F-off.


Well, its pretty clear that you have no idea what you are talking about. Do you even have a clue how many Fender amps have been named "Twin Amp"? Somehow I doubt it. Go back and read the OP's first post. If you can figure out exactly which "Twin Amp" he is talking about, please, tell us. We obviously don't read minds as well as you do, so we'll be waiting right here for your revelation. :roll:

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Post subject: Re: Fender Twin Amp
Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 5:37 pm
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bluesky636 wrote:
STRANDMAN wrote:
What's the big need to defend your amp. He said he thought it was a great one, just not for him. It would have been nice if you guys would have simply answered his very direct question with a similarly direct answer. I'm surprised he didn't just tell you to F-off.


Well, its pretty clear that you have no idea what you are talking about. Do you even have a clue how many Fender amps have been named "Twin Amp"? Somehow I doubt it. Go back and read the OP's first post. If you can figure out exactly which "Twin Amp" he is talking about, please, tell us. We obviously don't read minds as well as you do, so we'll be waiting right here for your revelation. :roll:



Who cares what Twin amp it is. He asked about pedals. Plug in any OD pedal, turn down the amp volume and crank the pedal gain to taste. It's just for practice. He isn't asking how to get tube saturation at room volume. Duh. All I'm saying is you guys didn't have to rip him a new one over it. What is this, the "good ole boy network"?


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Post subject: Re: Fender Twin Amp
Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 6:26 pm
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STRANDMAN wrote:
bluesky636 wrote:
STRANDMAN wrote:
What's the big need to defend your amp. He said he thought it was a great one, just not for him. It would have been nice if you guys would have simply answered his very direct question with a similarly direct answer. I'm surprised he didn't just tell you to F-off.


Well, its pretty clear that you have no idea what you are talking about. Do you even have a clue how many Fender amps have been named "Twin Amp"? Somehow I doubt it. Go back and read the OP's first post. If you can figure out exactly which "Twin Amp" he is talking about, please, tell us. We obviously don't read minds as well as you do, so we'll be waiting right here for your revelation. :roll:



Who cares what Twin amp it is. He asked about pedals. Plug in any OD pedal, turn down the amp volume and crank the pedal gain to taste. It's just for practice. He isn't asking how to get tube saturation at room volume. Duh. All I'm saying is you guys didn't have to rip him a new one over it. What is this, the "good ole boy network"?

Someone earlier in the thread suggested an attenuator, which would be optimal if you wanted to retain the pure tone of the amp. But yea, most of us kind of got stumped & sidetracked by "Twin Amp?" Which one? He did indeed ask about a 40w amp though. As far as OD pedals, there's so many in the market, the list would be long long long. If I were to go that route, I would suggest a Digitech Bad Monkey. They're inexpensive & they sound good w/tube amps.


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Post subject: Re: Fender Twin Amp
Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 10:18 pm
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STRANDMAN wrote:
Who cares what Twin amp it is. He asked about pedals. Plug in any OD pedal, turn down the amp volume and crank the pedal gain to taste. It's just for practice. He isn't asking how to get tube saturation at room volume. Duh. All I'm saying is you guys didn't have to rip him a new one over it. What is this, the "good ole boy network"?


I suggest you unbunch your panties and go read the original post again. The OP did not ask about overdrive pedals. He asked about making the amp quieter. Period. It is nice to know exactly which amp is being used as there are multiple ways to reduce the volume of a loud amp to more managable levels. Based on his rig we might suggest a tube change, speaker change, an attenuator, or heck, maybe just turning the volume down.

Those of us that have been here for some time like to have as much information as we can get about an amp or guitar in order to recommend the best solution. We don't just jump in with the first thing that comes to mind which may not be the best or the desired solution. You'll learn how to do that after you have been here a while. Or not.

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Post subject: Re: Fender Twin Amp
Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 10:19 pm
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Someone earlier in the thread suggested an attenuator, which would be optimal if you wanted to retain the pure tone of the amp.


Yes, I did.

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Post subject: Re: Fender Twin Amp
Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 1:04 am
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I went back & read the OPs post. He asked about the now infamous "Twin amp"; he asked about pedals; he asked about making the amp quieter, & he asked about a 40w amp.
W/O any more details, the OD pedal & attenuator & other suggestions are all valid.
I agree w/Strandman that there's no need to be aggressive & make personal remarks. I don't think anybody here, however knowledgable, has the right to push people around or away. After all, this isn't High School & we're not bullish teachers, & we shouldn't behave like them. It detracts from the purpose of this site. Let's keep this site cordial.
I initially came here to seek information. I got it & was thankful. No insults were involved. No one treated my questions as a personal insult, however dumb they may have sounded.
Since then, I've been able to give advice as well, & I hope some of it was helpful at least a little. Quid pro quo. cheers :)


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Post subject: Re: Fender Twin Amp
Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 5:48 pm
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bluesky636 wrote:
STRANDMAN wrote:
Who cares what Twin amp it is. He asked about pedals. Plug in any OD pedal, turn down the amp volume and crank the pedal gain to taste. It's just for practice. He isn't asking how to get tube saturation at room volume. Duh. All I'm saying is you guys didn't have to rip him a new one over it. What is this, the "good ole boy network"?


I suggest you unbunch your panties and go read the original post again. The OP did not ask about overdrive pedals. He asked about making the amp quieter. Period. It is nice to know exactly which amp is being used as there are multiple ways to reduce the volume of a loud amp to more managable levels. Based on his rig we might suggest a tube change, speaker change, an attenuator, or heck, maybe just turning the volume down.

Those of us that have been here for some time like to have as much information as we can get about an amp or guitar in order to recommend the best solution. We don't just jump in with the first thing that comes to mind which may not be the best or the desired solution. You'll learn how to do that after you have been here a while. Or not.



I'm sorry, I missed the part where you where the go to guy on this forum when I registered. I guess there must be an advisory there somewhere that says "see bluesky636 concerning what you need to learn on this forum". By the way I'm 62 years old and have been gigging for only about 40 years. But oh gee, this must be my first forum experience and I really need your advice since I just don't know my way around yet.

As far as my panties being in a bunch I don't know about that. But I do know when someone thinks they're legend in their own mind. And ya, I guess that does get my panties in a bunch.


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Post subject: Re: Fender Twin Amp
Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 8:18 pm
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But oh gee, this must be my first forum experience and I really need your advice since I just don't know my way around yet.


Congratulations, pal.

You sure know how to win friends and influence people.

Lest it may have escaped you, Bill is one of a handful of people on this board who knows circuit architecture better than you know your way around your own bedroom. Many of us amp junkies were trained by the best military instructors on the planet and we've worked everywhere from JPL in Pasadena to Cheyenne Mountain and Vint Hill Farms. We try our best to help out, but only if there is cogency in the question. The OP of this thread did not provide sufficient information, yet we are castigated and insulted because we lack sufficient telepathic skills to discern his intent. Rest assured -- the day you post an amplifier question on this board and nobody bothers to give you the mutha-fuggin' time of day, you'll now know why.

Good day to you, sir.

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Post subject: Re: Fender Twin Amp
Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 10:57 pm
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But oh gee, this must be my first forum experience and I really need your advice since I just don't know my way around yet.


Congratulations, pal.

You sure know how to win friends and influence people.

Lest it may have escaped you, Bill is one of a handful of people on this board who knows circuit architecture better than you know your way around your own bedroom. Many of us amp junkies were trained by the best military instructors on the planet and we've worked everywhere from JPL in Pasadena to Cheyenne Mountain and Vint Hill Farms. We try our best to help out, but only if there is cogency in the question. The OP of this thread did not provide sufficient information, yet we are castigated and insulted because we lack sufficient telepathic skills to discern his intent. Rest assured -- the day you post an amplifier question on this board and nobody bothers to give you the mutha-fuggin' time of day, you'll now know why.

Good day to you, sir.

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I don't care if you both graduated from MIT it doesn't give either of you license to be rude and arrogant to the folks who post on this or any other forum.

Good day to you, sir.


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Post subject: Re: Fender Twin Amp
Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 11:55 pm
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STRANDMAN wrote:
Retroverbial wrote:
STRANDMAN wrote:
But oh gee, this must be my first forum experience and I really need your advice since I just don't know my way around yet.


Congratulations, pal.

You sure know how to win friends and influence people.

Lest it may have escaped you, Bill is one of a handful of people on this board who knows circuit architecture better than you know your way around your own bedroom. Many of us amp junkies were trained by the best military instructors on the planet and we've worked everywhere from JPL in Pasadena to Cheyenne Mountain and Vint Hill Farms. We try our best to help out, but only if there is cogency in the question. The OP of this thread did not provide sufficient information, yet we are castigated and insulted because we lack sufficient telepathic skills to discern his intent. Rest assured -- the day you post an amplifier question on this board and nobody bothers to give you the mutha-fuggin' time of day, you'll now know why.

Good day to you, sir.

Arjay



I don't care if you both graduated from MIT it doesn't give either of you license to be rude and arrogant to the folks who post on this or any other forum.

Good day to you, sir.

I'm afraid I have to weigh in on Strandmans side again. I'm not questioning anybodies knowledge or intelligence, including mind reading. :) It's a question of manners. I personally would rather not get a reply at all, than to have somebody respond in an arrogant & condescending manner. Mutual respect begets friendliness, not knowledge. If you guys find us tiresome & a "waste of time", then don't respond. I'm sure somebody else will. No one has a monopoly on knowledge. After all, this site is for sharing willingly & freely. I agree that if somebody posts a thread, they also need to give enough information, but there are better ways of handling it. I say this with all due respect.


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Post subject: Re: Fender Twin Amp
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 3:09 pm
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you guys are too punchy. not only here, but the streets too. you guys/gals notice some of that in your home towns & cities? i think it's the crappy economy. lots of frustration out there, in people's homes, and seems to be spilling in here.

Most everything seems to be manufactured off-shore in asia somewhere, but very little in America. In NYC, no needle trade anywhere - and what a devastating impact that had. the number 1 industry: tourism!

Was in Memphis last week, lots of good music, lots of good musicians. took a good look around at what the local industries might be, still don't really know, except for maybe FedEx, but that's a service industry, not manufacturing. of course Fed Ex generates lots of secondary jobs so that's a plus. but still, that sense of emptiness. on the way to Memphis International, my cabbie said he'd vote Donald Trump. maybe we need a business man to lead the country back to a strong manufacturing base. i share a good part of that sentiment.

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Post subject: Re: Fender Twin Amp
Posted: Mon May 09, 2011 9:17 am
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Hey Folks,

Wow. Okay all, I am the original poster of this comment. I'm really surprised at the back and forth that has taken place since I was away. Let's put a couple issues to rest so we can make this topic a productive one:

1. The reason I haven't posted was because of perceived rudeness (honestly, who gives a flying cuss about 'rude' forum topic responses), it was because (drum roll)...I forgot I had posted it.... :?

2. The Twin I was talking about was the reissue Twin. It was the 100W/25W model without the red knobs. It was easily the best amp I have ever owned...and I miss it...sniff...sniff...

Okay, so there have been some great suggestions on here. When I had my amp, I did use it was several pedals, including an OD pedal, and was able to bring the sound down a bit, but even on the 25W setting, this amp is LOUD. I have not heard of an Attenuator, so if someone wants to explain in laymans terms what this pedal does, I would appreciate it. I will also research Google on this matter.

When I spoke about a 40W amp, I was speaking about how, ideally, I would like a Twin amp, with all the knobs and features found on the 100W/25W model, which would just max out at 40 watts. The reasons for this is because, and this was just my experience, even when I had my Twin and switched to the 25W mode, it seem to be way louder than a typical 25W amp.

Okay, I send it back to you folks, and let's all play nice with each other. We are all hear to learn and help each other.

Thanks for the information,
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Post subject: Re: Fender Twin Amp
Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 12:24 am
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I don't know the particular amp you are refering to but if it uses 4 x 6l6 tubes, you can convert it to 4 x el84s. It'll drop the power from 50 to 70%. THD makes them calling them Yellowjackets. Check it out.


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