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Post subject: Re: Hot Rod Settings.
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 9:15 am
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Way back everybody I knew tried to emulate Clapton, Page, Beck, Peter Green, Mike Bloomfield and Johnny Winter too. Clapton's "Woman Tone" was done to death. People were trying to get SRV's sound when he was around too. Kind of bugs me when people try to cop someone else's thing. I guess we really are magpies and thieves. I worked on trying to not sound like anybody but me. Once you find the sound in your head, there's no turning back. :wink:

Vibroverbs were just the tip of the iceberg of his sound. His recording rigs were a bit different from his live rigs. Like I said before, and this is only MY Opinion, so all the SRV fans can just cool their jets, SRV wasn't really original, not saying he wasn't great, just not original. He took a lot of cues from Lonnie Mack, Hendrix, Albert King, Albert Collins, you name it. He melded everything together. It's a shame he started to get his own thing right before he passed. He would have been a force of nature.

We all have our influences. Mine growing up was Rory Gallagher and Johnny Winter as well as Alvin Lee. It wasn't until way later that I broke away from the influences and searched for my own voice. YMMV

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Post subject: Re: Hot Rod Settings.
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 10:38 am
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63supro wrote:
Way back everybody I knew tried to emulate Clapton, Page, Beck, Peter Green, Mike Bloomfield and Johnny Winter too. Clapton's "Woman Tone" was done to death. People were trying to get SRV's sound when he was around too. Kind of bugs me when people try to cop someone else's thing. I guess we really are magpies and thieves. I worked on trying to not sound like anybody but me. Once you find the sound in your head, there's no turning back. :wink:

Vibroverbs were just the tip of the iceberg of his sound. His recording rigs were a bit different from his live rigs. Like I said before, and this is only MY Opinion, so all the SRV fans can just cool their jets, SRV wasn't really original, not saying he wasn't great, just not original. He took a lot of cues from Lonnie Mack, Hendrix, Albert King, Albert Collins, you name it. He melded everything together. It's a shame he started to get his own thing right before he passed. He would have been a force of nature.

We all have our influences. Mine growing up was Rory Gallagher and Johnny Winter as well as Alvin Lee. It wasn't until way later that I broke away from the influences and searched for my own voice. YMMV

I hope the Cool your Jets comment wasnt meant for me. I value everyone's opinion and take everything with a grain of salt. I'm a fan of SRV not becuase of his tone but becuase was just a great guitarist. You can disect his tone 7 days a week and twice on sundays but one fact still remains. It was his guitar playing that made him great.
I'm 33 years young and play in a cover band where the music is mainly classic rock. My friends are all in alternative and metal bands. I guess im just an odd ball. But influence was and inspiration to even pick up a guitar was Ace Freheley. I guess Im just the oddity of all the odd balls.


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Post subject: Re: Hot Rod Settings.
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 11:17 am
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63supro wrote:
Way back everybody I knew tried to emulate Clapton, Page, Beck, Peter Green, Mike Bloomfield and Johnny Winter too. Clapton's "Woman Tone" was done to death. People were trying to get SRV's sound when he was around too. Kind of bugs me when people try to cop someone else's thing. I guess we really are magpies and thieves. I worked on trying to not sound like anybody but me. Once you find the sound in your head, there's no turning back. :wink:

Vibroverbs were just the tip of the iceberg of his sound. His recording rigs were a bit different from his live rigs. Like I said before, and this is only MY Opinion, so all the SRV fans can just cool their jets, SRV wasn't really original, not saying he wasn't great, just not original. He took a lot of cues from Lonnie Mack, Hendrix, Albert King, Albert Collins, you name it. He melded everything together. It's a shame he started to get his own thing right before he passed. He would have been a force of nature.

We all have our influences. Mine growing up was Rory Gallagher and Johnny Winter as well as Alvin Lee. It wasn't until way later that I broke away from the influences and searched for my own voice. YMMV


The very nature of music or art in general is to take all of your influences and meld them together to create your individual trademark. Whether you realize it or not the "sound in your head" is more than likely derived from a fusion of all your favorite sounds you've heard before.

In any case, I agree with what you're saying.

But if Vibroverbs were just the tip of the iceberg then one COULD make the argument that Stevie would sound just like Stevie through a Blues Jr. or any Hotrod series amp. On a side note, I've heard Clapton has been seen with Blues Jr's.

Also, you can't completely attribute Stevie's sound to just his playing and his influences. What about Fender for making all the great equipment! :D I personally don't care for Stevie's acoustic stuff. I gotta hear that strat!


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Post subject: Re: Hot Rod Settings.
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 12:06 pm
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morbe, the comment wasn't directed at you at all. You're always cool about everything. Some Stevie fans put him up on a pedestal and get all bent out of shape when it comes to opposing views of Stevie. Nothing odd about someone your age liking classic rock, I see it all the time. Even younger I have over 20 years on you and love all kinds of music. Still consider myself young even though I have Geezer status.

Seeing Stevie live, it's not just the tone, you can feel the power and dimension of his tone. I doubt he could get that out of a Blues Jr. I have to disagree about the sound in my head. It's mine. Style is another thing, but tone is a combination of many things.

I believe you can influence playing style way more than tone. Ever notice if you play someone else's rig, you still sound like you? I finally found it wasn't a Fender powered 6V6 power tubes or any EL84 powered amp but a combination of both! My Strat isn't my most played guitar, it's a 63 Supro Martinique through an Egnater Rebel 20 of all things. I've had that guitar for over 40 years and it's still my favorite as well as a 57 Dano U1. I like simplicity. The sound of the Stratocaster was defined well before SRV.

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Post subject: Re: Hot Rod Settings.
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 1:15 pm
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Rossfloss wrote:
The very nature of music or art in general is to take all of your influences and meld them together to create your individual trademark. Whether you realize it or not the "sound in your head" is more than likely derived from a fusion of all your favorite sounds you've heard before.


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Also, you can't completely attribute Stevie's sound to just his playing and his influences. What about Fender for making all the great equipment! :D I personally don't care for Stevie's acoustic stuff. I gotta hear that strat!


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There wasn't a single piece of gear that Stevie owned and played that wasn't heavily modified, sometimes to the point of near-unrecognizability. Thus, nobody can merely walk into a guitar shop and buy something "off the rack" that was precisely the same as SRV's. Which doubtlessly was a major contributory factor to his overall tone.

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