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Post subject: Re: How Do I Get A Nashville Sound With A Cyber Twin
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 10:16 pm
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Post subject: Re: How Do I Get A Nashville Sound With A Cyber Twin
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 10:21 pm
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Hi Arjay,

Many thanks for the well wishes.

John.


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Post subject: Re: How Do I Get A Nashville Sound With A Cyber Twin
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 10:24 pm
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No prob, sir.

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Post subject: Re: How Do I Get A Nashville Sound With A Cyber Twin
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 7:09 am
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Post the artist name & song title of at least three songs that you would say is the nashville sound
I've got lots of presets. If I can match something up, I'll post it for you.


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Post subject: Re: How Do I Get A Nashville Sound With A Cyber Twin
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 7:55 pm
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I was thinking of
1. Vince Gill : Liza Jane
2. Alan Jackson : Good Time
3. Diamond Reo Steve Wariner, leroy parnell version of : Workin Man Blues

your help would be greatly appreciated, and thanks for your offer to help


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Post subject: Re: How Do I Get A Nashville Sound With A Cyber Twin
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 8:31 am
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I don't have the albums but had a listen after searching on you-tube.
My ears hear some clean twangy stuff & some clean slightly over-driven stuff - really nice tones.
A cybertwin can only ball-park what you get out of a tube amp.
Here's 8 pre-sets that could get you close, you may want to play a bit with the gain & reverb. I've posted most of these in other forums over the past few years. Some are really clean, some have various amounts of over-drive, as I was trying to get a clean overdriven sound on some of these, as well as just a clean twang.
Important is to adjust your trim control so that it never goes into the red - otherwise you'll get some harsh sounding distortion/clipping & you'll never get close to what you are looking for.
I'll be curious if one of these ends up close to what you are looking for. What guitar are you using, tele? strat?

1.
Cyber-Twin Patch: Pedal Steel

Tone Stack Type: British
Tone Stack Loc: Pre
Drive Circuitry: Tweed Tube 1
Reverb Type: Blackface
Reverb Input: 9.0
Reverb Tone: 9.5
Reverb Time: 7.7
Reverb Diffusion: 3.9
Timbre: Full Body
Line/Spkr Phase: Reverse
Compressor: High
NoiseGate Depth: 5.5
NoiseGate Thresh: Low
Expression Pedal: Gain
Cont Controller: Master Volume
Reverb/FX Bypass: Rvb Input Only
Gain: 5.8
Volume: 7.8
Treble: 8.4
Middle: 2.0
Bass: 4.5
Presence: 7.6
Reverb: 2.4
Effects: mono delay
Delay Out Level: 3.6
Delay Time: 33 ms
Delay Feedback: 1.0
Delay Brightness: 8.0
Delay In Level: 9.9
Delay Time Change: Step

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2.
Cyber-Twin Patch: Pedal Steel 2

Tone Stack Type: Tweed
Tone Stack Loc: Pre
Drive Circuitry: Tweed Tube 3
Reverb Type: Fender Reverb
Reverb Dwell: 3.3
Reverb Tone: 3.3
Reverb Time: 3.3
Reverb Diffusion: 10
Timbre: Bass Booster
Line/Spkr Phase: Reverse
Compressor: Medium
NoiseGate Depth: 1.0
NoiseGate Thresh: Low
Expression Pedal: Gain
Cont Controller: Master Volume
Reverb/FX Bypass: Rvb Input Only
Gain: 5.0
Volume: 8.2
Treble: 9.0
Middle: 5.0
Bass: 2.7
Presence: 2.9
Reverb: 4.7
Effects: None

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3.
Cyber-Twin Patch: Pedal Steel 4

Tone Stack Type: Blackface
Tone Stack Loc: Pre
Drive Circuitry: Blackface Tube 3
Reverb Type: Blackface
Reverb Input: 8.0
Reverb Tone: 4.1
Reverb Time: 5.5
Reverb Diffusion: 8.7
Timbre: Full Body
Line/Spkr Phase: Standard
Compressor: High
NoiseGate Depth: 5.0
NoiseGate Thresh: Low
Expression Pedal: Gain
Cont Controller: Master Volume
Reverb/FX Bypass: FX Output Only
Gain: 4.2
Volume: 8.2
Treble: 7.1
Middle: 6.0
Bass: 6.0
Presence: 3.2
Reverb: 4.2
Effects: mono delay
Delay Out Level: 3.6
Delay Time: 30 ms
Delay Feedback: 1.0
Delay Brightness: 8.0
Delay In Level: 9.9
Delay Time Change: Step

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4.
Cyber-Twin Patch: FolsomTwang

Tone Stack Type: Blackface
Tone Stack Loc: Pre
Drive Circuitry: Blackface Tube 1
Reverb Type: Fender Reverb
Reverb Dwell: 9.0
Reverb Tone: 10
Reverb Time: 2.4
Reverb Diffusion: 8.9
Timbre: Razor Edge
Line/Spkr Phase: Standard
Compressor: Medium
NoiseGate Depth: 6.9
NoiseGate Thresh: Medium
Expression Pedal: Gain
Cont Controller: Master Volume
Reverb/FX Bypass: FX Output Only
Gain: 4.9
Volume: 9.0
Treble: 9.0
Middle: 8.0
Bass: 7.9
Presence: 9.0
Reverb: 2.0
Effects: mono delay
Delay Out Level: 3.0
Delay Time: 49 ms
Delay Feedback: 1.5
Delay Brightness: 8.0
Delay In Level: 9.9
Delay Time Change: Step

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5.
Cyber-Twin Preset Name: Blue Steel

Tone Stack Type: Blackface
Tone Stack Loc: Pre
Drive Circuitry: Blackface Tube 3
Reverb Type: Blackface
Reverb Input: 6.5
Reverb Tone: 6.5
Reverb Time: 4.5
Reverb Diffusion: 7.5
Timbre: Bright & Light
Line/Spkr Phase: Standard
Compressor: Medium
NoiseGate Depth: 6.9
NoiseGate Thresh: Medium
Expression Pedal: Volume
Cont Controller: Master Vol
Reverb/FX Bypass: FX Output Only
Gain: 4.2
Volume: 7.3
Treble: 7.0
Middle: 8.8
Bass: 4.6
Presence: 7.0
Reverb: 3.0
Effects: Mono Delay
Delay Out Level: 4.4
Delay Time: 32 ms
Delay Feedback: 1.0
Delay Brightness: 8.0
Delay In Level: 9.0
Delay Time Change: Ramp

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6.
Cyber-Twin Patch: CLnTwng Blues
Tone Stack Type: Blackface
Tone Stack Loc: Pre-Distortion
Drive Circuitry: Blackface Tube 3
Reverb Type: Blackface Reverb
Reverb Dwell: 6.5
Reverb Tone: 6.5
Reverb Time: 4.5
Reverb Diffusion: 7.5
Timbre: Bright & Light
Line/Spkr Phase: Reverse
Compressor: Meduim
NoiseGate Depth: 6.9
NoiseGate Thresh: Medium
Expression Pedal: Volume
Cont Controller: Master Volume
Reverb/FX Bypass: FX Output Only
Gain: 4.0
Volume: 10
Treble: 9.0
Middle: 5.3
Bass: 6.6
Presence: 6.8
Reverb: 3.0
Trim: Keep it just shy of the red when slamming a chord hard
Effects: Mono Delay
Delay Out Level: 4.7
Delay Time: 34 ms
Delay Feedback: 1.4
Delay Brightness: 8.0
Delay In Level: 9.0
Delay Time Change: Ramp


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7.
Cyber-Twin Patch: Champion Steel
Tone Stack Type: Blackface
Tone Stack Loc: Pre-Distortion
Drive Circuitry: Blackace Tube 3
Reverb Type: Fender Reverb
Reverb Dwell: 8.0
Reverb Tone: 10
Reverb Time: 7.8
Reverb Diffusion: 5.2
Timbre: None
Line/Spkr Phase: Standard
Compressor: Meduim
NoiseGate Depth: 5.0
NoiseGate Thresh: Low
Expression Pedal: Volume
Cont Controller: Master Volume
Reverb/FX Bypass: FX Output Only
Gain: 3.9
Volume: 10
Treble: 8.1
Middle: 6.9
Bass: 5.0
Presence: 6.0
Reverb: 1.9
Trim: Keep it just shy of the red when slamming a chord hard
Effects: Mono Delay
Delay Out Level: 3.8
Delay Time: 30 ms
Delay Feedback: 1.6
Delay Brightness: 8.0
Delay In Level: 9.9
Delay Time Change: Ramp

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8.
Cyber-Twin Patch: Buckaroo
Tone Stack Type: British
Tone Stack Loc: Pre-Distortion
Drive Circuitry: Tweed Tube 1
Reverb Type: Blackface Reverb
Reverb Input: 9.0
Reverb Tone: 9.5
Reverb Time: 7.7
Reverb Diffusion: 3.9
Timbre: Bright & Light
Line/Spkr Phase: Reverse
Compressor: Low
NoiseGate Depth: 5.5
NoiseGate Thresh: Low
Expression Pedal: Volume
Cont Controller: Master Volume
Reverb/FX Bypass: Reverb Input Only
Gain: 5.4
Volume: 8.2
Treble: 8.0
Middle: 4.5
Bass: 2.0
Presence: 8.1
Reverb: 2.3
Trim: Keep it just shy of the red when slamming a chord hard
Effects: None


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Post subject: Re: How Do I Get A Nashville Sound With A Cyber Twin
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 8:33 am
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Also, my CT is the 1st edition, so all of these presets can also be duplicated in the SE


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Post subject: Re: How Do I Get A Nashville Sound With A Cyber Twin
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 12:04 pm
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Hey Many thanks hobbyist for the elaborate info. Only one problem remiains to be resolved and that is my ct is a product from the year 2000. i dont see a model # and my presets do not include any steel types. mine may be an older version...perhaps among the first made. anyway, I am getting close using the baseman and twin presets. I have the presets like road house, champ, delux twon bqndmaster super reverb princeton deville sunn, dual richter blues combo, vintage stack, modern stack, stadium rock night bobs smolin bodelay (which works really well with Credence Clearwater stuff), route 66, reel to real southern man and texas bar room.

In looking at your presets I may have to just search mine and see if the tweed or blackface circuitry is comptible with some of the steel presets on yours that are not on mine.

I really appreciate you taking the time to research my needs and provide the info you have...I am sure I can get something out of it.

Oh I m currently using a tele style, have my eye on the 52 hot rod...but until I mastethese few more tunes I will have a harder time making my case for the new addition! I tried the road worn and some of the cheaper tele's but only want to go into debt once and that is the one I really have the hots for. I tried a 72 but it has different pickups and does not produce the same quality sound in my opinon. So by the end of the year thats what I hope to be jammin on. Thanks again


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Post subject: Re: How Do I Get A Nashville Sound With A Cyber Twin
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 2:06 pm
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There were only two models made.
You & I have the same model, no doubt about that.
There is absolutely no reason that you cannot dial in the exact presets that I posted.
"Steel" etc. are the names that I chose to give the presets, they can be named anything.

Sound like you might need to read the manual which can be downloaded from Fender's site or possibly Johnny has them on his site, I'm not sure about that.

here - found the manual

http://support.fender.com/manuals/guita ... manual.pdf

Once you try a few you will see it is not hard to do - go for it.


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Post subject: Re: How Do I Get A Nashville Sound With A Cyber Twin
Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 1:42 pm
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I have the manual, mine is dated 2000. Haven't had a chance to play around with what you sent yet but hopefully get to it today or tomorrow. will let you know how it goes!
Thanks Again you've been very helpful


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Post subject: Re: How Do I Get A Nashville Sound With A Cyber Twin
Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 11:00 am
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ok hobbyist...after a few days of playing with the options...I came really close using your #4 for a basis. Still tweeking but waaayyyy better than anything I tried previously...Thx Again


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