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Post subject: Re: How is the Blues Jr for
Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 10:58 am
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63supro wrote:
They should describe it as vintage aesthetics/ old school looks etc.


Better that they should describe it than me.

I am not inclined to be so kind.

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Post subject: Re: How is the Blues Jr for
Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 11:58 am
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Post subject: Re: How is the Blues Jr for
Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 8:20 pm
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63supro wrote:
It's marketing hype, no more, no less. It is deceptive. It's the same thing when amp manufacturers misuse the term "Class A" like it's better than a Class A/B design just for marketing purposes. LOL Vintage Modified is another one. The only thing the VM series has in common with vintage amps they share the name with IS the name. It's really hard to find the original circuit anywhere in the amp. If I misrepresented myself or the quality of my products in my business, I'd be sued out of business.

They should describe it as vintage aesthetics/ old school looks etc.


http://www.guitarcenter.com/Fender-Hot- ... 1173592.gc

It's a product name. Big deal. Complain to Fender if you don't like it. No need to rag on it here. :roll:

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Post subject: Re: How is the Blues Jr for
Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 6:42 am
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One of the possible reasons there is a new and somewhat improved HRD III series might be because of all the ragging about them. If you don't like my posts, don't read them. :lol: Fender uses the forums as a product feedback mechanism. It's not just a product name, it's a misused industry term used as marketing hype.

Maybe you don't rely on your equipment, but I do. I don't like my amps taking a dump on stage which has happened to me three times with my HRDlx. I finally got smat and dumped it.

I have no problem with you not liking me, just get off my back about my comments. Like I said if you don't like them, don't read them, just skip over them.
What's next, you won't want people to ask for help on how to possibly repair these amps? If the products were perfect, there would be no reason to rag. :wink:

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Post subject: Re: How is the Blues Jr for
Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 6:56 am
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From reading this forum, one might get the impression that the Blues Jr. has no practical use and comes with completely inadequate components. “Too small for the stage…too big for the bedroom…you have to mod it…change the tubes…change the speaker.” Good Grief!!
Step off haters! I find my “factory” Blues Jr. to be perfect for what I use it for. Which is home use. A clean sound at low volume is certainly no problem and if it’s grit that you want, crank up the preamp and back off the main. If that’s not a low enough level for you then do as mhainz suggested above and use a pedal. I have an MXR classic overdrive pedal that I use and I can achieve a beautiful bluesy tube tone at very low volumes. I would be surprised if any 5W tube amp could come close to it.
I say the Blues Jr. covers the spectrum from practice to performance perfectly. And unless you get a lemon, it sounds great right out of the box!
No offense to anyone…just my opinion. FWIW, I have the NOS model that comes with the Jenson speaker. Not only does it sound delicious but it is the coolest looking amp ever!



+1. i run a fulltone OCD through mine. love this setup too.

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Post subject: Re: How is the Blues Jr for
Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 9:32 am
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63supro wrote:
One of the possible reasons there is a new and somewhat improved HRD III series might be because of all the ragging about them. If you don't like my posts, don't read them. :lol: Fender uses the forums as a product feedback mechanism. It's not just a product name, it's a misused industry term used as marketing hype.

Maybe you don't rely on your equipment, but I do. I don't like my amps taking a dump on stage which has happened to me three times with my HRDlx. I finally got smat and dumped it.

I have no problem with you not liking me, just get off my back about my comments. Like I said if you don't like them, don't read them, just skip over them.
What's next, you won't want people to ask for help on how to possibly repair these amps? If the products were perfect, there would be no reason to rag. :wink:


You need to ratchet things down a bit.

You jumped all over candycoke09's post with a lecture on what "NOS" means. All he was posting about were You Tube comparisons between the "standard" Blues Jr and the "NOS" Blues Jr (Fender's name). There was no discussion about amp reliability, repair or anything else that you are concerned about. If you want to worry about misleading or hyped names, what about these?

Fender "Deluxe" Reverb - What's so deluxe about it?
Vox "Night Train" - Will it really run on tracks?
Egnator "Rebel" and "Renegade" - Are they going to team up and start a revolution?
Peavey "Bandit" - Will it hold me up at gunpoint?
Fender "Vibro King" - What it is king of?

They are names. Nothing more. You don't like them? Ok. But that is no reason to jump on people.

I never said I didn't like you. I have great respect for your technical knowledge. I just wish these discussions were a little more civil.

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Post subject: Re: How is the Blues Jr for
Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 10:31 am
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Reading your response, I can see you have no idea what I'm talking about. Especially if you can't understand what is "Deluxe" about the Deluxe Reverb. Deluxe is defined as "rich and superior in quality" meaning compared to the original Deluxe, the Deluxe Reverb has two channels, more power, reverb and other things going on that made it superior. I still like the original too and deluxe can be subjective.

By the definition of NOS, Fender is implying that the amp is made from vintage, unused parts.
I'm not talking, bandits, trains or revolutions. Those names are not misleading by any stretch of the imagination.

If I ratcheted anything down, people would think I had a lobotomy or an accident or something. I would suggest you not take my posts so personally or just skip them. So do me a favor and get off my back.

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Post subject: Re: How is the Blues Jr for
Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 10:36 am
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63supro wrote:
Reading your response, I can see you have no idea what I'm talking about. Especially if you can't understand what is "Deluxe" about the Deluxe Reverb.

By the definition of NOS, Fender is implying that the amp is made from vintage, unused parts.
I'm not talking, bandits, trains or revolutions. Those names are not misleading by any stretch of the imagination.

If I ratcheted anything down, people would think I had a lobotomy or an accident or something. I would suggest you not take my posts so personally or just skip them.


I'm done.

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Post subject: Re: How is the Blues Jr for
Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 5:21 pm
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wow guys, did i miss something? what sparked this off?

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Post subject: Re: How is the Blues Jr for
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 6:31 am
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In brief...

63supro already stated he hates the whole HRD series and has let everyone know if you don't like his posts don't read them. Which begs to ask why he is posting in this thread.

63supro took Candycoke09's description of the NOS features in the Blues Junior NOS as literal and then tried to give candycoke09 a free lesson which was not necessary. Several more lessons ensued.

He then tried to boost his reputation by telling us he relies on amps on stage and has been round years and wasted days on the Fender forum (yada yada heard it all before).

In fact he sounds like he is a NOS model himself.


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Post subject: Re: How is the Blues Jr for
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 6:52 am
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As for the original question its a great little amp also VERY popular and gig-able.

The 12" speaker does open the sound up better than a smaller combo.
The amp is fairly clean at bedroom levels but can dirty up.
For low volume playing with attitude I recommend using a (name your flavor) boost/drive/dist pedal.

I have heard every style of music played through a Blues Junior.
It does sound EQ'd a bit dark to me. The speaker (NOS) and EQ, bright mods have all addressed this in different ways. Really you don't need to mod the Blues Junior at all.
It just becomes a different sounding beast with the mods which is the same for any amp.

This is the Blues Junior NOS in capable hands.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmraB95nZuU


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Post subject: Re: How is the Blues Jr for
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 7:06 am
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warrior

ole supro63 is a pretty cool cat. pretty smart when it comes to gear as
hes lived the real world gigging situation his whole life.
i trust in what he says about items, but i still looksee for myself too, just
to see it for myself. follow that lol? i dont seriously think he intended
any hard to anybody in what he said or how he said it.
when on forums you know as well as i do that its hard to understand
how somebody ment what they typed. sometimes something might look
rude or as lashing out when it was intended to be funny (as an example)
there has been a time or two on here when i thought someone was beating
me up but a reply or two later they are offering to help me if i need it on
something. i was shocked but honestly realized what i just mentioned above.
so usually when im looking into a product i ask about it here.
take what everybody says that actually knows anything about it first hand,
and then i go try to duplicate it on my own, both the good and the bad.
the blues jr for example, there are several on here that HATE that amp with a passion.
me, i love mine. i do have the tweed edition and have it setup perfectly for two
of my fav guitars. i wouldnt trade it for nothing or two just like it.
when you ask about something on a site like this, ya gotta realize your gonna get
opinions that ya might not like, it just goes w/o saying. so its all good here guys, just a small disagreement is all, no big deal.

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Post subject: Re: How is the Blues Jr for
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 7:17 am
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Wow Shockwarrior, you know me like a book. :roll:
I don't care one bit about my reputation on this forum. I do this for fun. I don't need this forum. I like most of the people here. I'm pretty much semi retired and work when I want to. Most of my work is on the computer so that's why I'm here so much. I enjoy reading this stuff.

Yeah, it's one of the most popular and most modded amp Fender manufacturers. If it's so great, why mod it? Any rig can sound great in capable hands.

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Post subject: Re: How is the Blues Jr for
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 7:24 am
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Shockwarrior wrote:

This is the Blues Junior NOS in capable hands.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmraB95nZuU




yeah that guy can jam seriously. ive seen a couple videos of him before.

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Post subject: Re: How is the Blues Jr for
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 5:52 am
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I love my blues jr. It fills its roll for me perfectly. I did fall for the hype and upgraded the speaker to a Texas heat. Not really sure if it was worth it. It maybe sounds a little. It isn't the best amp Fender makes but I got mine for 350.00 and for that investment it sounds damn good to me. I have other amps for other things.


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