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Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 7:37 pm
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+1 Roland Jazz Chorus

one of our guitar players uses a 4x10
Jazz CHORUS It is solid state but you can get
some great blues tones out of the onboard dist
is not real dirty but thats what you want with blues
also you could supplement with Tubescreamer or the like
best part is it sounds great with an acoustic
either undersaddle or soundhole magnetic
JAZZ CHORUS IS THE WAY TO GO! (IMO)

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Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 8:34 pm
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I heard someone get excellent electric Stratocaster tones to come out of an acoustic Kustom guitar amp--clean. yet not too crispy.

But no idea what overdrive pedals would do thru an acoustic amp. Probably a bit brite.


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Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 6:52 pm
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fbfl32034 wrote:
Wow, great input guys!

His Taylor has the onboard "Sound Expression" system. He plays in a couple of small bands, and he has a recurring gig at a local pub where he plays both the Taylor and a Fender Strat, mostly blues. He does use a couple of pedals.

A year ago, he got a Marshall half-stack. We desperately tried to get him to consider a Fender Blues Deluxe, but kids are kids and the Marshall made the ride home. Now he's understanding that portability is important...

Your help and input is greatly appreciated.


When I first "met" this Forum/Board (only a couple of weeks ago), I was asking essentially the same question as the one you asked when you started this Thread. There's a lot I don't know, but I am a pretty good pot-stirrer, and after a while (and a few direction changes, with subsequent New Topic/Threads), I finally arrived at a decision to the "dual-purpose amp?" question.

> For a lot of good responses to several aspects of this subject, try clicking on my screenname ("bobwords") and use the "Show ... Posts by bobwords" link to find the three or four Threads I started here. Use the Start date to discover which Thread was the first.

Again -- it's not about what I know: it's about the opinions that came back to my questions.

As for me, for now -- I'm hearing there are two viable ways to get to what your son is looking for:

> A dedicated, high quality Acoustic Guitar amp (the Fishman Loubox 100 or 130 topped my shortlist) will do it all, except for the "dirty"/overdriven electric guitar sounds.
Such an amp (esp. the Loudbox 130, or Fishman's SA220 Solo Performance System) can also be used as a PA system -- a big plus for an acoustic player/singer.

Many (here and elsewhere) suggested that for the "down 'n dirty" part of the electric guitar system, a good preamp/signal-processing box (the Boss brand was most often mentioned) would do a decent job of conditioning the electric guitar's signal so it'd do "fine" fed from there into one of the purely acoustic-guitar amps.

I'm one of those -- with plenty of company -- who likes to hear that "genuine tube amp" sound out of my electric guitar. That "tube amp sound" means lots of things to lots of people, and there are many "sound signatures" that are practically the trademarked (in our heads) "sound" of a particular brand of amp: of note are Vox, Marshall, and of course Fender.

To me and my limited music budget, I chose to chase the best electric guitar sound I could find in an amp that sounds "just like a Fender Blues or Dual-Reverb amp," and could preferably produce other brands' "signature" sounds too.

I gave Serious Extra Points if the amp that met those standards could also do a good (or better) job amplifying an acoustic guitar. Here's the deal: many of us -- especially of our music is playing & singing, rather than, say, concert-style solo fingerpicking of instrumental-only stuff -- aren't "hearing in our heads" a true acoustic guitar sound when we imagine that "acoustic sound" behind such-n-such a song. We're hearing an acoustic guitar played through a "regular" guitar amp.

Best Example: much of the guitar sounds on that first CSN&Y album (the "Suite: Judy Blue Eyes" album) were acoustic guitar sounds. They were NOT "natural acoustic guitar sounds" by any stretch of the imagination, but they were GREAT guitar sounds.

There are lots of really pleasing sounds available from a good, versatile tube amp that are NOT true "acoustic" sounds -- yet they are sounds that are exactly what a performer may be looking for.

Realize: harmonic feedback is a Very Real problem when amplifying an acoustic guitar. Dedicated "acoustic guitar amps" often combat this with a "notch filter" -- an adjustable gizmo that electronically tunes out (think: narrow dead spot in the acoustic spectrum) the specific frequencies in the acoustic guitar that tend to resonate {howl!!} with the speakers.

There are other ways to notch-filter those frequencies when the acoustic guitar is plugged in to a "regular" amp. Talk to a knowledgeable guitar-gear guy: he can point out what's available.

So what did I choose? After lengthy side-by-side trials, I narrowed it down to a Fender Blues Deluxe ReIssue (40w) and an Egnater Rebel-30 (available in both "mini-stack" and "combo" configuration.) The Egnater got the nod: much more versatile, and for me and my best electric guitar, it did "Fender sound" better than the BDRI.

Aaaaaand: I also plugged several $3000+ acoustic-electric guitars into it, including two Martins and two Taylors, and was amazed and delighted at the variations of both "clean" and "lightly soiled" ( :wink: ) sounds that Big Acoustic + Egnater gave me.

... and as "they" always say, YMMV ! 8)

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Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 10:50 pm
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Interesting that this subject came up. I have 2 excellent Tube Electric Guitar Amps (Fender Blues Jr and Blackstar HT5 Mini Half Stack), but I have a couple of Hybrid Acoustics and have A/E Ukulele and Mando-Guitars on order. So I am looking for a decent Acoustic Amp.

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