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Post subject: Effects loop issue
Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 1:21 pm
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My effects pedal chain runs as follows(from guitar to amp): Boss TU-3 tuner, Boss DS-1 distortion, Digitech MultiChorus and Boss NS-1 noise suppressor. What is the most effective/efficient way to utilize the effects loop (Preamp Out, Power Amp In) functions in order to get the noise suppressor to function at the best of its ability. Thank you.


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Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 2:17 pm
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1. Please tell us what amp you are using.
2. Why are you using a noise suppressor? What source of noise are you trying to get rid of?

Only way to use the noise supressor (or any other pedal for that matter) in an effects loop is preamp out->cable->effects input,effects output->cable->power amp in. Simple, just two extra cables and you're good to go.

Usually modulation (your chorus for example) and time based effects (delay) get put in the loop while distortion goes in front of the amp. Noise suppressor can go anywhere. But need to know what is causing your noise. Do you get noise when the chorus is engaged? Then put the noise suppressor after the chorus with both in the loop. Or get a less noisy chorus.

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Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 2:38 pm
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My amp is a Fender Deville 212. I'm using an NS to get rid of hiss/feedback, which only becomes a problem whenever I turn on the distortion pedal. Only the clean channel of the amp is used.


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Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 2:48 pm
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Oh I see. I think your best bet is using the current setup and pedal sequence you are doing right now. In my opinion, no need to use the efx loop if you are only using the clean channel and getting your distortion from the pedal.

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Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 2:55 pm
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Or just get this and be done with it. IMO, One of the best noise suppressors on the market.

http://www.isptechnologies.com/index.ph ... &Itemid=63

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Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 3:37 pm
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Given my current setup, would you prefer using input/output on NS or Send/Return? All these pedals are arranged within a Boss BCB-60 pedalboard.


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Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 3:50 pm
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I prefer not to use effect loops. I grew up without them and don't find that much of a benefit using them. None of my amps had them. I don't use that many pedals anymore. At one point I had tons of them and they were all analog and not real quiet but back then noisy effects were commonplace and there wasn't true bypass either.

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Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 4:09 pm
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Years ago -- when I owned a HRD -- I tried using the in/out jacks as a quasi-effects loop to connect a noise gate in a vain attempt to rid the amp of the god-awful hiss. I found I had marginally better luck wiring it in series with the rest of my stompboxes and using the regular input. The only way I could quiet that amp down completely was to switch it to the "O-F-F" position and ultimately dump it.

I can't stand hiss!

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Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 5:15 pm
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dont the hot rod effect loops have a small whine or hum reguardless of what you use it with?

Mine does, but i dont use it anymore, im sticking to my good old twin.

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Even though I have amps with effects loops I never use them as I find that using the effects loop robs something from the tone of the guitar and effects.After years of experimenting I've found that I can get a much better tone overall if I plug my signal chain effects and all into the amp input.Effects loops are nothing but tone robbers and I've found that many more share my views as I posted a thread dealing with that very topic last week in the forum lounge section.

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Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 7:07 am
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Isn't the point of the fx loop to keep the tone of the guitar while applying time-based effects to your sound? Theoretically that is... :)


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