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Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 2:09 pm
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Hello all,

I believe this is my first post here. A little background to explain my situation:

I own a Hot Rod Deluxe 1x12 and will never get rid of it because it was a (very kind) birthday present from my wife several years ago. I've been looking for something a little smaller to play in smaller venues and have been through many amps. I had a Marshall Class 5 which is a phenomenal little amp, but doesn't clean up well at all. My band plays a wide variety of classic rock and sometimes I need a clean sound. I tried the Orange Tiny Terror which is the same thing (great sounding, no cleans) only more expensive. I currently have a Vox Night Train, which cleans up very well, but is too "Voxy" for my tastes - lots of biting highs, even with the treble all the way down. I even have a '74 Champ that I sometimes play through my HRD extension cab, but that's not getting it done for me either.

Long story short (too late), my dream amp is a Princeton Reverb. I've heard such great things about the reissues, I'm going to go ahead and buy one. However, I do want to run it through an additional cab as well - I like the stereo sound it gives. My question is this; I'm 99% sure I can just go ahead and run the Princeton through the Hot Rod extension cab, but are there better options out there? Eventually, I'd like to have TWO Princetons, a la Ryan Adams, but this will have to do for now. The Princeton really is the amp I want, even more so than a Deluxe. I just love how they sound clean and, since I have a couple of OCD's, I know overdrive won't be a problem either. I just want to spend wisely and get the best sound possible. Thanks for reading all this and thanks in advance for any replies or advice. Oh, and by the way, if anyone's looking for a '74 Champ, I know where you can get one, lol.

- Jeff


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Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 2:23 pm
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I have examples of them all and IMO you're better off with a DR or DRRI than a PR or PRRI for stage use. My '65 PR (original) sounds great but it would never survive in an aggressive rock environment with a 'rude' drummer and/or a 'heavy' bass player unless I chose to mic it. OTOH, my modified-and-upgraded DRRI has never failed to perform even when pushed in a medium-venue saloon. I'm especially fond of having two distinct channels with separate EQ controls for each as I like to use an A/B/Y footswitch to give the amp channel-switching capabilities and run two independent signal chains.

JMO, HTH

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Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 2:28 pm
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Thanks, Arjay, I'll keep that in mind, though my mind is pretty set on a Princeton. As I mentioned in another thread, I always mic my amp on stage so I'm not really worried about that aspect of it too much. Channel switching isn't too important to me either - I want my Fenders for cleans and let the OCD do the rest. Like I said, I love that Ryan Adams tone with his Princetons. They're gentle but can really roar when he wants them to. We're not that aggressive a band either, by the way, though I definitely see your point and will consider your advice. I haven't been here long but you seem like a guy who knows his stuff.

I am new here, so I have to ask a stupid question. I'm assuming "JMO" is just my opinion and "OTOH" is on the other hand, but what is "HTH?" I'm guessing it's not Hard to Handle... or is it?

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Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 2:35 pm
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"HTH" = hope this helps

We mic all our stuff in the one band I play in -- a second band that I also work for, we don't have the luxury of a "mega-PA". Like I said, the PR is a great amp -- the ultimate "porch weasel". It's just a skosh small for what I do on-stage. I did build this piggyback conversion a few years back, using a 1980 non-verb silverface Princeton......

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With the more efficient speaker system (2 x 12 JBL K120's in a home-cloned Showman cab) I've easily kept up with Vibrolux Reverbs and SRRI's.

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