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Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 2:37 pm
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At volume 5-6 the DRRI sings so fine, compressed and responsive but loud enough that my wife complains that she has problems hearing the TV (and I am playing in the basement behind two closed doors!).

Pretty loud compared to the Blues Junior that I traded for it but no comparison to the tone. I can sit with a big smile just strumming away like a grinning monkey on the DRRI enjoying the glassy, compressed 3D tone.

But - (on my DRRI at least) you have to play at at least 4-5 volume or the magic just doesn't happen with overdrive pedals. Below that level it sounds shrill and harsh, I put the blame on the fixed brightness cap on the vibrato channel (and/or maybe the speaker needs breaking in). I will have to get rid of the cap someday because I really can't play with overdrive pedals on lower volumes.

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Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 2:47 pm
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sixfootstrat wrote:
Hey man,

I have a Super Reverb, which is mainly for home use and I wouldn't call it unbearably loud at all. Usually the volume is set between 4 and 5. Depending on how hard I strum, I'll start to hear some natural breakup. But you can always jack into input 2 and get an instant 6db drop.

The BIGGER difference is measured in size and tone. The Super is very big and very heavy. Not fun to transport. But the sound of those four speakers working together delivers something I couldn't get from the Deluxe's single cone.

But that's up for your ears and your back to decide.

Hope that helps.


Now this makes me consider the Super Reverb again :lol:

See, in the Leslie speaker cabinets, the actual construction of the cabinet and wood make all the difference in the bass response the speaker produces. So that is a big reason why I associate larger cabinets with tighter, punchier, and ballsier bass response. But does this logic carry over to the size and shape of a guitar cabinet?

Also...you say that the 2nd input on the Super Reverb instantly drops the volume by 6db. Does this mean a 6db drop in output volume, or a 6db drop in input volume? Would I still be able to drive the amp using the second input, but at a lower volume?

And not to be blasphemous here...but has anyone here used an attenuator with a larger amp such as a Super Reverb?

I'm looking for a store that carries both amps that have a sound room that would allow me to crank the volume up to around 5 or so.

As far as weight, I was used to carrying around a KB/A 100. That was around 60lbs. Weight isn't that big of an issue to me.


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Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 3:04 pm
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If you can load a B3 without the dolly kit you'll have no problems hefting a Super Reverb.

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Retroverbial wrote:
If you can load a refrigerator without the dolly kit you'll have no problems hefting a Super Reverb.

:mrgreen:

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:lol: :lol:


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Another option to kick around is the 59 bassman LTD.

I have both the 59 bassman RI and a 65 DRRI , The deluxe to me sounds best using my p-90's guitars or humbuckers, the 59 bassman is just about all i plug into with my Strat's

I did upgrade the speakers to all webers which had a dramatic affect on the tone, the 59 bassmans can be had for around 700 to 800 used these days.

Sell off the Jensens and it will nearly pay for the webers, thats what i did.

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Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 4:55 pm
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Well, you all have given me so many options. It sounds like a Deluxe Reverb or Super Reverb would suit me well. I just have one more question and I'll be out of your hair...for now :lol:

I realize BF amps are the epitome of clean tones. And while I love clean tones, I'm also big on dirty tones as well. I've heard it said many times that BF amps are not the right amps for metal or anything like that. While I don't play metal (at least not now), I do play a variety of music, and am wondering if the Deluxe Reverb or Super Reverb are versatile enough?

My Blues Jr. recorded with an SM57 never sounded that great. I've had to resort to using (gasp) computer software to emulate amplifiers and effects. Be it as it may, I've gotten used to the dirty tones I've squeezed out with these emulators on various songs I've written and am looking to replicate them without the use of a computer. Here are a few clips of songs with distorted tones that I'm looking to get with the Deluxe Reverb or Super Reverb (with pedals, of course). Am I barking up the wrong tree expecting to get these various types of distortion with these amps in addition to their beautiful clean tones?

(please excuse the unpolished nature of these recordings and my voice :oops: )

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Thank you all again for indulging me. While I can compare and contrast the clean tones of these amps in the store, I'm afraid that I won't be able to appreciate or test the versatility of these amps when it comes to distortion and its true overdriven warmth. Thus, I've come to rely on you good people with experience.


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I use a Zoom Amp Simulator for modern overdrive tones with my various blackfaces and silverfaces.

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Retroverbial wrote:
I use a Zoom Amp Simulator for modern overdrive tones with my various blackfaces and silverfaces.

Arjay


Do you by any chance have any recordings? Which unit specifically? I'm really thinking I'm going to get the Deluxe Reverb and perhaps try the Spankmaster mod later on if I'm not happy with the low end :)


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No recordings available but it's the Zoom G1 model. It has 40 different presets plus 40 programmable and rewritable voicings. The "canned" effects are okay but sound better after some tweaking. It took me over a week to fine-tune the parameters but it was worth the effort. The Zoom gives me a consistency of overdrive tones whether I'm playing a '65 Princeton Reverb or a '78 Twin and are available at any volume level.

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Hi the drri has been a great jigging amp for me from three to nine on the volume. never had any problems on stage even 100 watt marshalls i just turn her up to nine and run from my guitar volume control. just great tone .Cheers from aus :)


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Does this seem like something that is worth it?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Fender-1965-Deluxe-reverb-handwired-PTP-ALESSANDRO_W0QQitemZ330479364408QQcategoryZ10171QQvarZQQcmdZViewItem

What kind of differences would these modifications make? I had thought that PTP wiring was more of a reliability issue than a sound issue?

And are the reissues the only deluxe reverbs to have the brightness cap on the volume knob, or do the vintage amps have them as well?


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Hi thats a nice looking amp love to have ptp drri but they are to dear here in aus. so i will just make do whit my drri. sounds tops when turned up got to love that tone. Cheers. from aus :D


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rabmag wrote:
Does this seem like something that is worth it?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Fender-1965-Deluxe-reverb-handwired-PTP-ALESSANDRO_W0QQitemZ330479364408QQcategoryZ10171QQvarZQQcmdZViewItem

What kind of differences would these modifications make? I had thought that PTP wiring was more of a reliability issue than a sound issue?

And are the reissues the only deluxe reverbs to have the brightness cap on the volume knob, or do the vintage amps have them as well?


The original DR had the bright cap as well.

As for the PTP vs PCB debate, you'll find a variety of opinions (some vehemently and diametrically opposed). I'm cool with either wiring method though the PTP types are more easily repaired and modded.

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I will have to get rid of the cap someday because I really can't play with overdrive pedals on lower volumes.

JimR[/quote]

I added reverb and trem to the normal channel in 15 minutes. It's ultra easy. Just google the Fritz mod for the DRRI.

Getting to the bright cap is way harder.

PS: Mine has a Celestion Blue and it is a WONDERFULL speaker.


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hey rabmag, nobody mentioned it, and i know this thread has been dead a month or so, but i think your singing is pretty good-certainly at the very least "good enough", and your playing and songwriting are great too (those were originals, right?). just thought you deserved some kudos. :wink:

oh, and i almost forgot-don't start playing metal. the last thing the world needs is another metal player. no offense intended to metal players/fans, but you just seem to have your own sound, and i think it's fairly original, which is a breath of fresh air these days. :D


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