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Post subject: Which had more headroom? Blues Deluxe vs. 65 Deluxe Reverb
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 12:39 pm
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I've played them both. However, I didn't play them side by side. I remember both of them having really good clean tones, and I remember both breaking up around 4-5. However, the blues deluxe has 40 watts vs. the 65 deluxe reverb's 22 watts. Therefore, would the bues deluxe have more clean headroom? I'm leaning toward the blues deluxe b/c it's cheaper, and it has two channels.


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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 1:54 pm
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The 65 DRRI is built way better and is more true to the "Classic Fender Sound". The Blues Deluxe was designed to break up early. The DRRI has tube sockets mounted to the chassis, the BDlx has tubes mounted to the board. It has lots of construction shortcuts like that coupled with dirt cheap components. Shortcuts effect reliability.

The DRRI is usually rock solid. The HRD series amps are hit and miss.

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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 2:18 pm
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just to clarify, I was referring to the blues deluxe, not the HRD.

So I know the DRRI is a better amp, and the pricetag shows that. But my question is, do the 22 watts of the DRRI have more headroom than the 40 watts of the BD?

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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 3:06 pm
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I had both... I bought the Blues Deluxe (US made) when they first came out in the early 90s, plenty of clean headroom, it didn't break up til you hit 6 or 7, maybe earlier with a humbucker. I just recently sold it, it was a good amp, nice Fender clean, one of the worst overdrive you can ask for though, so the whole 2 channels doesn't mean anything to me. I now have the DRRI, the sweetest Fender tones you can ask for! Sure it doesn't have the extra headroom, but it really depends on where you plan to use it. I've had no problem keeping up so far, so I don't need the extra 18 watts or the added weight :wink:

You can pick up a used DRRI in good shape for around $600 and it will continue to hold its value, unlike the BD.


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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 3:15 pm
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Basically Blues Deluxe is a Hot Rod family or vice versa. BDx is a sound path valves amp but not as DR which is 100% valves even the rectifier (I don't know on the reissue).
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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 7:32 pm
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63supro wrote:
The 65 DRRI is built way better and is more true to the "Classic Fender Sound". The Blues Deluxe was designed to break up early. The DRRI has tube sockets mounted to the chassis, the BDlx has tubes mounted to the board. It has lots of construction shortcuts like that coupled with dirt cheap components. Shortcuts effect reliability.

The DRRI is usually rock solid. The HRD series amps are hit and miss.


I agree!

I'd say the Deluxe Reverb is a better all around amp, but not as clean sounding. Because you're talking two different amp circuit designs and different tubes. Besides having two independent channels you also get tremolo, my personal favorite effect.

I owned a BF Deluxe Reverb for nearly 30 years as my back-up amp for my Twin and also as a grab and go to the Blues Gigs. I play through the church's Hotrod Deluxe on Sundays and it sounds great, but the volume has 2 settings loud and louder so I always have to cut back my guitar volume or I'll blow the congregation to Hell.

As a general rule the higher the wattage the cleaner an amp at a given volume (Db). All other things being equal 6L6's are cleaner sounding than 6V6's.


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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 7:39 pm
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dgcobb wrote:
just to clarify, I was referring to the blues deluxe, not the HRD.

So I know the DRRI is a better amp, and the pricetag shows that. But my question is, do the 22 watts of the DRRI have more headroom than the 40 watts of the BD?

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The Blues Deluxe is part of the HRD series and shares much of the same circuitry and construction flaws as the HRDlx.

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Fender Twin= Cleanest (Plus something about deafness and back injuries)
...plus hernias,best to buy some fool a beer and let him help the band.... :lol:


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Rebelsoul wrote:
Big The Cat wrote:
Fender Twin= Cleanest (Plus something about deafness and back injuries)
...plus hernias,best to buy some fool a beer and let him help the band.... :lol:


LMMFAO!!!

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Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 10:41 am
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There is definitely a DRRI bias on this Fender site for whatever reason. I personally prefer the BDRI for it's sound. I also think the issue of unreliability is overblown.

I'm not the only one. Check this out.

http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showth ... p?t=197946


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Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 1:27 pm
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FXA wrote:
There is definitely a DRRI bias on this Fender site for whatever reason.

cuz Fender pays us lots of money to lie so they can sell more DRRI :D

Not sure what that link is suppose to tell me... but the poll results shows that more than double prefer the DRRI.

I'm not saying the BD is a bad amp, I loved mine, but I could never get that sweet tone from it, only the DRRI can deliver that. I had no reliability issue with mine either, but it was a '94 or '95 model, made in USA.


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FXA wrote:
There is definitely a DRRI bias on this Fender site for whatever reason. I personally prefer the BDRI for it's sound. I also think the issue of unreliability is overblown.

I'm not the only one. Check this out.

http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showth ... p?t=197946


Because the DRRI is a better built, better sounding, more reliable and more versatile amp. It's also a real 2 channel amp with EQ on both channels. It's not a bias, it's a fact. My Egnater Rebel 20 is also light years ahead in tone and build quality than any HRD series amp. I owned a HRDlx and was forced to use both a Blues Deluxe, Jr and DeVille from time to time when I do guest spots with some of the local bands in my area. Man I hate when that happens. Play professionally night after night and try to rely on these amps like I did and you'll see what I mean. :?

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I just recently sold my Blues Deluxe due to the fact that my DRRI banished it to the closet.I got tired of fighting the volume knob to get good tones at decent levels.The drri is more flexible at different venues and much better tones imho.The reliability issues are there with the bdri,but are practically non existent with the drri.


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63supro wrote:
Because the DRRI is a better built, better sounding, more reliable and more versatile amp. It's also a real 2 channel amp with EQ on both channels. It's not a bias, it's a fact.


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Those who own Deluxe Reverbs, and those who will.

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