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Post subject: tilt-back legs for cyber-twin
Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 11:29 am
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I've got a cyber-twin which I'd like to fit with tilt-b ack legs. The aamp has casters which raises it 2.5 in off the floor. Anyone have any advice on the correct length for these tilt-backs (ie 14, 16.....)? Or alternatively is there a sturdy floor stnad on the market which would serve the same purpose, albeit not so convenient as the tilt-backs.

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Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 11:53 am
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The 16-inch leg set is probably optimum for your amp.

If your casters are of the "plug-in" style, removing them when using the tilt-back legs will help keep the amp more stable.

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Post subject: tilt-back legs for cyber-twin
Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 12:04 pm
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Retroverbial wrote:
The 16-inch leg set is probably optimum for your amp.

If your casters are of the "plug-in" style, removing them when using the tilt-back legs will help keep the amp more stable.

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Arjay


hi - thanks for the quick response. I'm also wondering if when fitted properly on the amp's sides, can this be done without having to remove the 'guts' section at the top, or can put the screws in the open back area? Hope this explains it.

Mike


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Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 1:50 pm
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I'm not real familiar with the Cyber Twin's layout but for safety's sake I would remove the chassis and the speakers before working inside the cabinet. It can't be too difficult -- a vintage blackface combo cab can be stripped in about twenty minutes.

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Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 4:22 pm
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Whoa!!

Keep in mind the amp is designed a certain way for a reason. By tilting the amp back, you will disturb air flow and heat disbursement inside.

Get a 1" AC powered CPU fan, and attach to the fuse block. Mount the fan on the back of the amp either pulling out hot air or blowing cooler air in. A computer store can do this for you if you're nervous. Then attach your legs.

You don't have to do this, but I promise if you do not, the amp will run hotter and eventually wear out it's weakest component first.


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Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 11:34 am
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Keeping the amp cool will extend the life of components.
We run a couple of fans behind the backline whenever we can.

Back to the tiltbacks, my understanding is to order the legs to be at/around 2" less than the height (without casters) of the amp cabinet.
The best prices I've seen are from Parts is parts.

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Post subject: fitting tilt back legs on cyber-twin
Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 5:43 am
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Well, I've got the 16 in. legs and now ready to install them, however, i have a qwuestion. It appears that in order to have the legs fitted as they are on other fender amps the screws/bolts have to enter the cabinet inside the upper 'guts' section which would have to be moved ouit of the way to do this. I'm not looking forward to that unless i have a tech do it of course. If anyonehas a cyber-twin with the the tilt backs, can you tell me whether the installation would require this, or can the legs be fitted closer to the middle of the cabinet sides in or to have the screws/bolts accessible to the open back area of the amp? I hope this question isn't too confusing. Any advice would be appreciated.

Mike


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Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 9:59 am
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"Johnny Stecchino......white courtesy phone, please."

Johnny is the resident Cyber Twin expert here -- if he drops by, he should be able to steer you in the right direction.

I wasn't aware that the chassis on those amps was that deep.

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Just my thoughts...

If you leave the casters on is there is a chance of the amp slipping?

If you leave the casters on then the legs would stick down below the cabinet when not being used. If you position the legs so that they do not protrude below the cabinet then the amp may tilt back too far when the casters are on.

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dear all,

i have never tried this, so i can't really recommend anything. but one thing you should be mindful of is that the electronics are pretty dense and you'll have to be careful so that interference problems don't arise when you try to put the electronics back in. I am assuming you will disassemble the amp and work on the enclosure to install the legs. As a suggestion, test your design by taping the nuts and bolts inside the enclosure, try re-assembling and see what happens. Tapping is better the drill holes only to find it out it won't fit. ditto on the placement of the legs and stops - try it with tape etc... before drilling holes!

on a personal note, i never liked the tiltback legs, i always had a fear of tip over and the resulting damage. the electronics are not designed to military standards and can't take the shock due to drop. consider yourself lucky if no damage.


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Post subject: Cyber Twin Tilt Back Leg Installation
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 2:00 pm
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Hi,

To the poster who was asking about adding tilt back legs to their Cyber Twin, I just wanted to let him/her know that I installed them on my Cyber Twin SE last year without removing the chassis of the amp. I used the 16" tilt back legs. I've also added them to a Fender Stage 100 amp without removing the chassis. For my Fender Tube Amps I had to remove the chassis to install them.

Carlos


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