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Post subject: Fender Pro Junior vs. Fender Super Champ XD
Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 7:41 am
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I got a Fender FM 25 DSP. Now I want to go for the tubes, but for pratice and home use only.
In the same price range PJr for $349 and SCXD for $299 I would like to hear from you guys opinions on these 2 amps. Is really the SCXD all tube as the PJr ?
I´m gonna use it to play some gilmour and hendrix tones, as well some blues.
What would you guys recommend me ?

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The SCXD is a hybrid DSP effects amp. The Pro Jr is all tube. You would have to try them both to see what suits you best. I don't like either one. Personally, I'd go for a vintage SF Champ. The tone IMO is better than either one of those amps. I also find the DSP effects cheesy at best. I'd also try to check out the THD Special 6. It's hand wired and 6 watts and under $200 for the head. I'd give the Marshall Class 5 a look too. If your looking for classic Fender tone, you won't get it out of the SCXD or the Pro Jr.
You'll have a hard time getting either Hendrix or Gilmour tones from it.
Just my opinion, it all comes down to your ears but for what you're looking for, I think the Marshall may be a bit better.

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Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 9:46 am
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Thanks for the suggestion. I´m confused on this buy. Im stuck with about $300 bucks, i saw the marshall 5w for around 399 but feedbacks said its a rattle box. The others youve mentioned cant find on guitarcenter or musiciansfriend store and since i got to import it to brazil, im stuck on that stores also.
Any enlightments on the amp that i should buy will be great! I really appreciate your replies!


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I own one of each and I like both of them very much. If I had to choose between the two, it would be the Pro Jr. Mainly because I think the all tube sounds better than the hybrid.

Jeff Beck uses a Pro Jr. extensively. Good enough for me.

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I own one of each and I like both of them very much. If I had to choose between the two, it would be the Pro Jr. Mainly because I think the all tube sounds better than the hybrid.

Jeff Beck uses a Pro Jr. extensively. Good enough for me.


Not too sure about extensively, but he does use them as well a 50's Tweed Champ and his Marshall and Tweed Twins. He uses all kinds of amps. He said in his last GP interview that he recorded his last CD Emotion & Commotion mostly with a 50's Tweed Champ. Sounds awesome.

Anyway, with your budget, I'd go with the Pro Jr. They are the most reliable of the Hot Rod series amps. For a practice amp, I'd look at the new GDec too. They have live backing tracks and Jeff Beck is pushing them too. I have an older GDec 30 that I use for practice, but I turn all the effects off and just use presets that I tailored for myself and my playing style. I just can't stand the sound of EL84 power tubes in a Fender amp. Both the SCXD and Pro Jr sound a bit boxy to me. I'm sure Beck hooks the Pro Jr up to a different cabinet.

If you can, try them out with your guitar and see what you like the best. My newest addiction in the Egnater amps, but they are a bit out of your price range.

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Post subject: Re: Fender Pro Junior vs. Fender Super Champ XD
Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 1:11 pm
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joaokorb wrote:
I got a Fender FM 25 DSP. Now I want to go for the tubes, but for pratice and home use only.
In the same price range PJr for $349 and SCXD for $299 I would like to hear from you guys opinions on these 2 amps. Is really the SCXD all tube as the PJr ?
I´m gonna use it to play some gilmour and hendrix tones, as well some blues.
What would you guys recommend me ?

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You'll get awesome variety of tonal qualities out of the SXCD. You'll be limited with the pro junior....

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DetroitBlues wrote:
joaokorb wrote:
I got a Fender FM 25 DSP. Now I want to go for the tubes, but for pratice and home use only.
In the same price range PJr for $349 and SCXD for $299 I would like to hear from you guys opinions on these 2 amps. Is really the SCXD all tube as the PJr ?
I´m gonna use it to play some gilmour and hendrix tones, as well some blues.
What would you guys recommend me ?

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You'll get awesome variety of tonal qualities out of the SXCD. You'll be limited with the pro junior....


Only if you're into DSP effects. :wink: I find them more annoying than awesome. Just depends on your tonal taste.

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63supro wrote:
DetroitBlues wrote:
joaokorb wrote:
I got a Fender FM 25 DSP. Now I want to go for the tubes, but for pratice and home use only.
In the same price range PJr for $349 and SCXD for $299 I would like to hear from you guys opinions on these 2 amps. Is really the SCXD all tube as the PJr ?
I´m gonna use it to play some gilmour and hendrix tones, as well some blues.
What would you guys recommend me ?

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You'll get awesome variety of tonal qualities out of the SXCD. You'll be limited with the pro junior....


Only if you're into DSP effects. :wink: I find them more annoying than awesome. Just depends on your tonal taste.


This chap has a Fender DSP solid state. The Superchamp XD's clean is pure tube. The DSP effects can be completely turned off. I use a few pedals in front of the amp, but the DSP's are very functional. Not as tweakable as my pedals though...

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I´ll be using a Digitech RP355 with the amp choosen for me by you guys.
Does this will make the Pro Jr more versatile ? Im looking good for the SCXD so far... I want to try getting some hendrix / gilmour tones out of it.. and if you guys are saying that the Pro Jr I´ll be very limited, but still with a RP355 in front of it ?


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joaokorb wrote:
I´ll be using a Digitech RP355 with the amp choosen for me by you guys.
Does this will make the Pro Jr more versatile ? Im looking good for the SCXD so far... I want to try getting some hendrix / gilmour tones out of it.. and if you guys are saying that the Pro Jr I´ll be very limited, but still with a RP355 in front of it ?


With the RP355, you'll have every possible tone including hendrix out of the SCXD. The RP355 is good enough on its own through a PA....

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joaokorb wrote:
I´ll be using a Digitech RP355 with the amp choosen for me by you guys.
Does this will make the Pro Jr more versatile ? Im looking good for the SCXD so far... I want to try getting some hendrix / gilmour tones out of it.. and if you guys are saying that the Pro Jr I´ll be very limited, but still with a RP355 in front of it ?


The effects in the Digitech RP355 will get you to what you want. The built in effect in the SCXD are cheesy at best and just your low end chourus, echo, reverb etc with no way to fine tune the parameters. If I was going that route, I'd go with a new GDec because you can adjust all the effects to taste , but if your looking for tube tone, personally I'd go with the Pro Jr. The SCXD is a hybrid. The power section is a pair of 6v6 power tubes with one 12ax7 preamp tube that I believe is tied into the DSP effects. That's the reason changing tube manufacturers has such a small effect on the SCXD amp.

IMO, Fenders effects are pretty sad sounding in the newer amps. You're better off using a stomp box. Like I said before, neither of those amps would be my first choice. With the Pro Jr, the only thing you'll be limited to is how many effects your stomp boxes can run at one time. The SCXD uses presets thought up by Fender. The presets on my GDec were made for 12 year olds. High gain, weird echo, reverb and flanging, but at least I have the ability to change the presets.

Opinions will vary widely. Anyone who thinks these amps are the mutts nuts needs to try a lot more amps. These amps are easy, cheap and disposable.
There are way better low wattage amps out there for not much more money.

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Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 6:52 am
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The pro jr. is really really a good sounding amp, especially if you like marshall tones. It's been known as the baby marshall. A strat and a PJ either cranked or with the right pedal at lower volumes (yes an RP 355 will do the trick) will get you there for hendrix. Want some Duane Allman tones? Switch to humbuckers.

There's a lot of talk about it's reliability. Listen.....you're not going touring are you? It will be fine and sound great. Is it THE best built absolutely most dependable, reliable amp ever produced in the milky way? No. Will it be reliable enough for you. Yes. If something does happen...it has a 5 year warranty. That's 5 years.

It's a fine amp...go get one and start playing with it and that RP 355.

You don't need the SCXD because you have an RP 355.


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That's what I thought about my HRDlx. 5 year warranty. It spent a lot of time in the shop. A lot of time..... Glad I had the warranty it really needed it.

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63supro wrote:
That's what I thought about my HRDlx. 5 year warranty. It spent a lot of time in the shop. A lot of time..... Glad I had the warranty it really needed it.


Yup - You had a problem one. The good thing is the vast majority are not like that.


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Uhmm now i feel more the PRO JR!

It seems that the ProJr with the RP355 will make a greater pair then with the SCXD..

As I understud, with that pair (PROJR+RP355) Ill get all the tones that i want, including the voices that SCXD have.

So I´m I right saying that if i got the RP355 I can dismiss the SCXD DSP Voices and clean channel for clean channel the Pro Jr is greater than the Super Champ ?

I must know this because I'm gonna buy online and send to brazil I have no ways to test them before buying it. And my budget is low cannot afford a amp more then $350 bucks.

Thanks guys for all replies! More suggestions will be great!


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