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Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 8:48 pm
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not only boxy, but also "small" IMO. I've played thru a modded BJ once and it did sound sweet, but it was still too boxy and thin sounding. A cab might help, but we can do the same thing with the DRRI and it will sound even better. My only issue with the DRRI is the flabby bass at higher volumes, which I've learnt to control with the bass knob, but I did get a cab for it as well when I'm playing at home and have been experimenting with speakers, so far the stock speaker still sounds the best in the cab! I have a Celestion Gold on the way and can't wait to hear what that sounds like with the DRRI. I want to use the DRRI for gigging or going to a jam and I don't want to have to use a cab, just pick it up and go, let's hope the Gold does the job.

The Hot Rods are always available for rentals for some reason, everywhere you go, unlike some of the RI Fenders, makes it tough for musicians playing out of town.


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Can we please not descend into yet another thread that acts as a vehicle for rubbishing these amps yet again, the forum is full of them, we don't need to hear it all again.


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i could say anything about my jr NOS except that its thin sounding.
my fulltone OCD was the best thing for my amp. very happy with the tone they give eachother.
63 stated earlier about the jr with a site for modding it should tell you something. i know what he was meaning, but i disagree.
for yrs now the everyday joe with a few basic tools and some new hardware could customize or modd up his/her guitars, and with nice results in most cases. it hasnt been that way with amps.
sure they could be modded if you had somebody who could do it and knew what they were doing. that was a rare find even up to a few yrs ago.
then the question was could you afford it?
here we have a tube amp thats ready willing and able to be modded and a few sites to help you along the way. ok lets look at it this way.......
for the sake of the post lets say the jr was a POS amp.
theres been several POS amps over the yrs come out. you didnt see and sites up to help you modd those did we? they just faded away over a short time. this isnt the case with the jr at all. its been here for a while now and doesnt look like its going away. im just sayin. :D

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I wouldn't call it a POS, even my HRDlx wasn't a POS. It had a lot of potential, it was the cost cutting measures and manufacturing shortcuts that were it's downfall. Setting a bias too high to get a good blues tone will get you the tone, but at the expense of premature tube failure and heat damage to the amp. There are other ways of getting that sound.

It's a shame. How many of us would be willing to pay another $75-100 more for an amp just to have it more reliable and better sounding. A handful of better caps won't break the bank. I know I would, but I'd rather have it from the factory than void my warranty and do it myself. It's almost like what CBS did in the 70's & 80's with cost cutting.

way cool jr my friend, You're one step ahead because If I'm not mistaken the NOS has an upgraded speaker. When you finally get that Egnater, you won't look back. I didn't.

There's no need to defend what you like. Usually I have to defend my opinions of what I don't. :wink: Just don't get upset with me over my overstated opinions. I really enjoy conversations with you.


The OCD is a great pedal. Have you ever looked at BYOC pedals?

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I hope I didn't offend anyone with my comments about the BJ, these were just my opinion and how I feel about the amp, I used to be a fan as I said and if money isn't an object than the DRRI is the clear winner for me. But for around $500 the BJ is still a good tube amp, it's definitely not a POS!


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I am still crying because of your comments about the BJr, you meanie! :cry:

Just kidding, I feel the same way sometimes. It's hard to give your true opinion without ticking off somebody. I am sure that I have offended a couple of times. But, you take the good, you take the bad.......something, something.....and there you have the facts of life.

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Ok so after reading even a few of these posts, the pro junior and the hot rod deluxe are out of the running, so to speak. The DDRI is out of my budget unfortunately. I checked out the Peavey Classic 30 and it looks like a great amp. I've found both the blues junior and the classic 30 for around the same price. I'm stuck between the two though. Could you guys give me guidance on which one to purchase?

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guitarlegend1218 wrote:
Ok so after reading even a few of these posts, the pro junior and the hot rod deluxe are out of the running, so to speak. The DDRI is out of my budget unfortunately. I checked out the Peavey Classic 30 and it looks like a great amp. I've found both the blues junior and the classic 30 for around the same price. I'm stuck between the two though. Could you guys give me guidance on which one to purchase?


The Classic 30 is a great sounding rock solid amp built in the USA. Of those two amps, the Peavey would be my first choice. It's better designed and constructed. The HRD series aren't even close in the reliability dept. For $600 you may be able to find a clean used DRRI with some warranty on it.

I'd try this too. About fifty bucks more and tone to the bone. Bruce Egnater has been building and designing amps since the 70's.
http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/prod ... sku=424080

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guitarlegend1218 wrote:
...I checked out the Peavey Classic 30 and it looks like a great amp. I've found both the blues junior and the classic 30 for around the same price.....


Looks like you answered your own question. :D The only thing left to do would be a side-by-side comparison, with your own guitar. I'm pretty much a Fender guy. EVH left Peavey and went to Fender.........don't know if that means anything. 8)


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You can't go wrong with the Peavey, I had the Classic 50 and loved it. If you need the extra headroom go for it, I'm actually thinking about getting the 30 myself, there's a couple on graigslist for about $300...


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Ok thanks for all the help :D It's hard to accept that the classic 30 has better quality. I've always thought fender was on top. Anyways, you guys think the classic 30 is good for a guy who doesn't do many gigs but a couple band practices here and there?
And when i usually play at home (which is every day) i keep it at a low volume. As I understand it you need to crank up a tube amp to get that sweet sound. Which will reach that sound at a softer volume?

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It's hard to accept that the classic 30 has better quality. I've always thought fender was on top.


I'm a Fender fan, but I don't think that I would put them at "the top" of any quality list, at least when it comes to the amps that we have discussed here. ;)

Heck, everybody has the Blues Junior, you hear good and bad. But many of the more experienced guys here seem to be hinting at the Peavey. Based on that alone, in this instance, I say be a "Pepper" and get the Peavey and be done with it. :)


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guitarlegend1218 wrote:
Ok thanks for all the help :D It's hard to accept that the classic 30 has better quality. I've always thought fender was on top. Anyways, you guys think the classic 30 is good for a guy who doesn't do many gigs but a couple band practices here and there?
And when i usually play at home (which is every day) i keep it at a low volume. As I understand it you need to crank up a tube amp to get that sweet sound. Which will reach that sound at a softer volume?


And so why are you so set on a tube amp, given your intended predominant use? Have you been brainwashed by the tube snobs here? Or have you played many various amps: Tubes, Solid State, Hybrids, "Computer based" amps, and decided due to the tone at the volume you will be most frequently using it at?

No one here can make the proper decision for you.....suggestions yes, but go test all the suggested types you can at volumes you'll be playing at and then make the decision. The more I read here, the more I question if a tube amp is right for you.

I own 3 tube amps, and several solid states, one of which is "computer based". Each has its proper place where it excells. Each can be a poor choice too for the improper application.

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guitarlegend1218 wrote:
It's hard to accept that the classic 30 has better quality. I've always thought fender was on top.


I'm a Fender fan, but I don't think that I would put them at "the top" of any quality list, at least when it comes to the amps that we have discussed here. ;)

Heck, everybody has the Blues Junior, you hear good and bad. But many of the more experienced guys here seem to be hinting at the Peavey. Based on that alone, in this instance, I say be a "Pepper" and get the Peavey and be done with it. :)


I would take a Peavey either solid state or tube over any HRD series amp. At least the Peavey's rarely ever die. Their Trans Tube stuff was pretty good. The Classic series are rock solid amps. They cut some corners on the construction, but not on the boards and design. I think the chassis on the Peavey's could stand improvement even though I've never heard of a failure from the chassis LOL.

These are only suggestions. No one is telling the OP what to buy. He needs to go out and try these amps with his own guitar. An amp can make or break your sound and will effect the way you play and how long you play. I'd still look at the Tweaker. :shock:

I have played and owned SS amps. My GDec 30 sounds nasty but it's a good practice tool. It has nothing to do with being a tube snob, but I just prefer the sound of a tube amp. If SS amps were good for everything, tubes amps would have died out long ago. Tube amps are harder to build and current production tubes ain't like the old ones. For me there is still nothing like tube amps and analog pedals. I'm a geezer so that may be why. :D I find most hybrid DSP amps cheap and cheesy sounding. YMMV as well as your ears.

But the Fender HRD series are built to a lower price point. But that point is a bit higher priced than some because of the Fender name. The HRDlx was the first new Fender amp I've purchased in over 30 years. When I took the back off it and saw how cheaply it was constructed, and how cheap the components were I was totally disappointed. When I bought it, it was close to $800 then. What I got was a cheap speaker, a pressboard cabinet and a PCB that was as thin as the one in my computer.
Sorry but anyone who knows me knows that I won't sugar coat anything and as far as I'm concerned I tell the truth. You'll never hear me say I just bought such and such an amp and I love it , but..............

I will always call them as I see them and if I never used a piece of gear I'll keep my big mouth shut. Peavey sticks to what it knows. The Classic 30 has been around forever. I'd also check out Jet City. I tried a 20 watter that was pretty cool. Not at the same level as Egnater but still pretty cool. Mike Soldano supposedly designed them. http://www.guitarcenter.com/Jet-City-Am ... 1475978.gc

Traynor has some good amps too.

But accusing someone of tube snobbery and brainwashing is pretty funny. :D

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63supro wrote:

But accusing someone of tube snobbery and brainwashing is pretty funny. :D



nothing wrong with suggestion what you like and what your experience is in. i would expect anything different.
the tweaker is a solid little amp and higher quality than either amp mentioned above.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdaXJ85A ... re=related

the tweaker smokes the compitition w/o fail.

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