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Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 5:24 pm
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The Marshall 2204 is a very well built amp and has plenty of volume. The '85 American models came with 6550 power tubes, but could be converted to use EL34 tubes if desired. Either way, it's got a big sound. Art

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aclempoppi wrote:
The Marshall 2204 is a very well built amp and has plenty of volume. The '85 American models came with 6550 power tubes, but could be converted to use EL34 tubes if desired. Either way, it's got a big sound. Art

Which is partly why I'm considering getting a DRRI with a tonebone hot british because it was modeled after the jcm800.

That Marshall had the best distortion I have ever heard, it was epic to say the least but really that's all it did, the clean kind of sucked, not that that's necesarily a bad thing, I can't express how awesome it's distortion was but it was a little expensive and not so versatile (but who needs versatility when you sound like jimmy page :D ).

So maybe I can get a little bit of both worlds with the drri and tonebone.


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Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 5:44 pm
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funny -
i got the opposite, but then, i am running thru a twin. (pro-tube twin~amp)
my amp starts really sounding like the $ around 5
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6 or 7 it sounds purfect, but forget the drummer at 5-
i have to play under 5 or it drowns him out

but i wouldn't trade it ~

i like the DRRI too~ but i just don't get the bottom end with it like i get with the twin

a DRRI going thru a 2-12" FENDER cab? hmmmmm sounds interesting
would be PLENTY loud!!! and get the bottom end too
you still wouldn't get the real LOUD clean tho~ but you prob be micing it anyway
you're only talking about 10-12 decibels less anyway between the twin~amp at 100 watts and the DRRI at 22 W
remember both are killer all-TUBE amps
you just won;t get the LOUD clean with the DRRI
have fun picking out your new amp
very exciting

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Yeah an increase in wattage only doubles volume at 10x eh? (as in a 10 watt is half as loud as a 100 watt)

Well, if you guys say it'll be loud enough, I trust you. It would be interesting to use it with a cab.

I can live with having it dirty at high volumes (in fact I would probably prefer it for most situations), hopefully I can get it semi-clean by using the guitar volume. Hopefully I can get more saturation and sustain with a pedal.

(and yeah it is really exciting :D )


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I have used a Line 6 4x12 cab with my DRRI and it sounds great. I currently run a Fender Deluxe 1x12 celestial enclosed speaker cabinet with my DRRI and it really sounds great. I like the sound of the Fender 1x12 better than the Line 6 4x12. Either way the DRRI has no problem pushing either extra speaker arrangement.


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If you like the tone the DRRI gets and it isn't loud enough,...mic it...,like Arjay mentioned,that's the way it's been done for years.
That or put it behind the drummer's head and pierce his eardrums. :lol:


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haha~
good one

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Well, I'll likely get the DRRI pending trying out more amps, like the peavey classic 50 or vox ac30c2.


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If you're playing through even the most minimal of PA systems, 22 watts will be fine. If you're trying to get a clean sound at drummer volume, you'll want something with more oomph: a Super or Twin Reverb. I can use my Pro Junior with a drummer and without a mic, but it dirties up at that volume.


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To me, one of the biggest factors in clean headroom that people fail to mention is how hot your pickups are. My strat has some pretty low output pickups, and I can barely get my DRRI to break up, even with the volume cranked. But my PRS has some really hot humbuckers and my DRRI starts breaking up after around 2 on the volume knob. Crank it to 5 or 6 and your in classic rock distortion territory(and boy does it sound good!)

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You're right about the pickup factor and tube distortion,the single coils will usually stay a little cleaner but the humbuckers will break it up faster,I think that was a lot of the Neil Young/Deluxe dirt sound.
We used to not like that much distortion when we were playing Tweeds and BF amps....then it all changed.


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Tell your drummer that he has no dynamics if he can't control the volume of his playing :) that'll get him pretty pissed/hopefully he will work on control. Then you can go w/ the DRRI and enjoy it's sound. Plus, I agree w/ everyone about a mic in front of it. If you are playing a venue w/out mic'ing your amp, then the venue is more than likely small, and your drummer will have to tone it down anyway. Any decent sized venue will have mics for amps AND drums so that the sound person can control overall mix/dynamics. Enjoy your future endeavors.


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I hadn't really been thinking about pickups. I guess I could always switch guitars if I wanted a cleaner sound, but most of the time I'll probably enjoy the dirt.

Does it still sound good with natural dirt from high volume as well as a pedal to further saturation?


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