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Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 5:50 am
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You picked up a great American made amp for 200 bucks. Very cool. Congrats. :D

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I'm getting more and more imoressed with it every time I plug in.

A very nice sounding overdrive !!! but the way the circuit is laid out you can get some scratch on the normal channel without going into ear bleed time.

I don't know what the speakers are in these early models, but it sounds and acts a whole lot like a vintage 30 a bit ice picky, could just be the ceramic thing, I'm used to alnico in my amps.

A couple of emi swamp thangs might help it a bit too.

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O.K. the big day has arrived !
I stoped by Good old Roxy Music in LaPorte IN. (Plug)
They had the new SS 22 in stock.
Grabbed an off the shelf Strat and gave it a twenty minute or so workout.
I was the only customer in the store so I let it rip a bit.
Maybe its the speaker ? but it had a very british (vox) sound to my ears,
The overdrive was not as musical as I recall my old Super-Sonic sounding,
I expected the clean to sound like my 65 Deluxe reverb RI and sadly It did not.
Keep in mind my 65 DRRI had major tube swappage from its originals and at home I use a route 66 with the comp side on all the time.
So to be fair a little tweaking could turn it into a superstar.
I guess you get to where you just expect a pair of 6V6's to have a certain sound and somehow this one did not sound like a 6V6 amp ?????

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I'm seriously considering buying one, only I'm not sure about the 22 watts... Would that be loud enough in a band?


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I've played plenty of gigs with a 22-watt DRRI.

Believe me -- it'll be loud enough!

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Wow !! you guys finished ripping on this brand new item I'm sure none of you has tried ?

I had the original Super-Sonic combo (blonde) and for what it was , it sounded great !

I thought Fender did a great job giving the high gain peeps a shot, I found settings that were more than acceptable.

Now for me the tweed sound is what I like too, however there are many flavors and many tastes, My bet is that the gain structure in a 22 watt combo with most likely a vintage 30 is gonna make a lot of rockers pretty happy.

Why is it that every time Fender introduces something new there is a group ready to announce to the world why its bad way before they ever plug in ?

I'm looking forward to hearing from someone who has played through one, That will be fun !


Let 'em all hate, I say. My Super 112 is, in a way, the granddaddy Super-Sonic. There is nothing wrong with my amp and yet everyone still bashes them for being PCB, having too much gain in the overdrive channel (which you can actually use, you don't have to crank everything up to 10 all the time), and being hard to repair (versus a Line 6 Spider or whatever? yeah I don't think so; I've seen a Super 112 gutted before and it's really not that bad of a mess in there). They're honestly not as cheaply made as anything else you buy today.

Because people still want to bash the Red Knob amps, you can buy one for next to nothing. I'm pretty sure the Super Sonic combos will meet the same fate in 15 years as my amp and that's fine with me; the more cheap tube amps I can buy, the better and the Super Sonic sounds decent enough for me to buy once it reaches the maturity of my Super 112. Yeah, I don't like the Burn channel much either, but I'm sure if I owned a Super-Sonic, I would sit down and find a way to make it work and work well.

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I'll look forward to the day super sonics are on the cheap, i'll buy two !

I like the original much better than these new 22 watt models.

To the guy asking if 22 watts is enough, Yep it will rock the house !

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blues bondsman wrote:
Wow !! you guys finished ripping on this brand new item I'm sure none of you has tried ?

I had the original Super-Sonic combo (blonde) and for what it was , it sounded great !

I thought Fender did a great job giving the high gain peeps a shot, I found settings that were more than acceptable.

Now for me the tweed sound is what I like too, however there are many flavors and many tastes, My bet is that the gain structure in a 22 watt combo with most likely a vintage 30 is gonna make a lot of rockers pretty happy.

Why is it that every time Fender introduces something new there is a group ready to announce to the world why its bad way before they ever plug in ?

I'm looking forward to hearing from someone who has played through one, That will be fun !


Let 'em all hate, I say. My Super 112 is, in a way, the granddaddy Super-Sonic. There is nothing wrong with my amp and yet everyone still bashes them for being PCB, having too much gain in the overdrive channel (which you can actually use, you don't have to crank everything up to 10 all the time), and being hard to repair (versus a Line 6 Spider or whatever? yeah I don't think so; I've seen a Super 112 gutted before and it's really not that bad of a mess in there). They're honestly not as cheaply made as anything else you buy today.

Because people still want to bash the Red Knob amps, you can buy one for next to nothing. I'm pretty sure the Super Sonic combos will meet the same fate in 15 years as my amp and that's fine with me; the more cheap tube amps I can buy, the better and the Super Sonic sounds decent enough for me to buy once it reaches the maturity of my Super 112. Yeah, I don't like the Burn channel much either, but I'm sure if I owned a Super-Sonic, I would sit down and find a way to make it work and work well.


It's only opinion. If you like yours that's all that counts. :wink: I don't like them. I had some hope for the 22 and it fell way short for me, but that's just me. It's based on a DR platform, but doesn't really sound like one, the burn channel is just eh. I just can't find any magic in it. I just didn't find it doing anything really well. Just a mediocre amp for my tastes. Nothing wrong with the red knob Twin either or the SF master volume Twins IMO as long as you keep the MV on 10. Mine's been a solid gigging amp for over 30 years. I wouldn't bash the SS for reliability. Reliability isn't subjective, tone is. To each his own tone.

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I certainly had higher hopes for the new model.
Pretty sure it was the speaker voice that went sour for me.

But I'm not going to spend a grand just to take one home to do some swapping.

Oh Well

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Just returned my second one :cry:

I really wanted to like this amp. I thought this would be the perfect amp. 22 watts, all kinds of gain settings, tube driven Fender reverb, Made In The USA! it sounded good right out of the box.

Except.....Hisssssssssssss.............. (with both volumes at 0)

If you want this amp to gig with, it will probably work well for you.

However I wanted it as a studio amp. The hiss was more than I could live with.

I spoke with a Fender amp tech about the problem. He strait up told me this was a high gain amp and the hiss was "not a problem but a a bi-product of the amp".

I would also say, I have other tube amps including a BillM modded Blues Junior that I have to put my ear to the grill cloth to hear any noise.

Anyway just wanted to give a heads up to any studio folk or livingroom players that are considerind this amp.

Dang, I wish It would have worked out.........................


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I only noticed a hiss when using the higher gain settings.

The clean was pretty quiet ????

Too many variables to discuss here as to why you may be getting extra noise.

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It's funny you guys mentioned the hiss. The 22 I tried hissed like a Cobra with the volume down too. Could just be some cheesy preamp tubes, could be something worse like cheesy components or even worse. I won't bring an amp home if I had to do a bunch of crap to it. Sometime I think manufacturers think we all have Tinnitus. I really do though. :?

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All of the super heros that rescued Fender from CBS and that kind of thinking are gone.

I keep waiting on the next guy to step up and say Hey ! This is Fender lets make Fender quality for our loyal customers.

Fender has had two points in history when they were excellent, sure hope were not on the brink of another CBS way of doing business.

Hopefully Fender will survive this crazy mess our country is in.

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It's funny you guys mentioned the hiss. The 22 I tried hissed like a Cobra with the volume down too. Could just be some cheesy preamp tubes, could be something worse like cheesy components or even worse. I won't bring an amp home if I had to do a bunch of crap to it. Sometime I think manufacturers think we all have Tinnitus. I really do though. :?


I once heard a salesgeek at GC demo-ing a 4 x 10 HRDlx to some clueless zit-popper.

He dimed the volume control with the "More Drive" channel engaged and no guitar plugged in, then boldly proclaimed......

"Listen to that" (referring to the hiss). "That's the sound of POWER!"

I nearly wet my Dockers!

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Well again "I spoke with a Fender amp tech about the problem. He strait up told me this was a high gain amp and the hiss was "not a problem but a a bi-product of the amp". Strait from the horses mouth.

I actually did swap all the ax7's and at7's for NOS tubes. Same problem. :cry:

For a gigging amp it would be fine.

I ended up with a PRRI so nothing against Fender, the amp just has too much hiss for recording and livingroom use.


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