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Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 4:52 am
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Hi !

I'm planning in buying a Fender Reverb unit Reissue from somebody I know. But he lives in USA and I live in Europe... which gives the unfortunately fact his power cable has 3 plugs ( USA style )

USA style :
http://www.cable-trader.co.uk/images/items/C5%20cloverleaf%20to%203%20pin%20USA%20mains%20power%20cable%20BLACK%201.8m.jpg

And in Europe they have this system :

http://80.68.80.139/webshop/images/P/European_Type_AC_PC_Y_Power_Cord_Cable.jpg

My question is , is it possible to change the cable without cutting it and so on... unless there is no other option with a connectionpiece for electricity cables? Wouldn't it harm the quality of the sound because I know sometimes electricitycables really do mather!

Or should I use a conversion-piece for the plug. But again the same question wouldn't it do any harm to the sound ?

I found a picture of the reverb unit with the backpiece detached. And as you will see , the cable isn't loose so you can just pull it out and change it with another ...

picture :
http://media.photobucket.com/image/fend ... DC0511.jpg


And last question , is there a difference between the strenght of power in USA and in EUrope ( voltage stuff and so on ... )

Or ... should I just look for another one ? =)

Greetings , and looking forward to see your reply !
Thanks !

Agnör


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Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 11:50 am
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Changing the plug wont cut it, you have 220v, we have 110v, for one thing. Dont know if the power on the unit you are buying is rated for 110-240v and 50/60 cycles. Why cant you buy your friend a US unit and ship to his address?


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Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 12:58 pm
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atolleter wrote:
Changing the plug wont cut it, you have 220v, we have 110v, for one thing. Dont know if the power on the unit you are buying is rated for 110-240v and 50/60 cycles. Why cant you buy your friend a US unit and ship to his address?


It's not new. It's second hand. ( Allready used ) .. thats why :p. It's not in a shop. I can buy it for the half of the price you'll pay new. So I'm willing to sacrifice things like searching how to change to powercable or stuff :p

So probably there will be problems with voltage ... ? And a simple switch like this one won't help ?

http://www.amazon.com/VCT-ADAPTER-CONVE ... pd_sim_e_2

Thanks allready :)


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Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 1:52 pm
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Read the "fine print" in this Amazon item......

This is a plug Adapter only and not a voltage converter.
To convert the foreign 220V to 110V, you will need an additional voltage converter.

US-spec line voltage is 117 VAC, 60 Hz.

Across the pond, 220 VAC, 50 Hz is the standard.

You need a transformer.

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Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 3:12 pm
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Retroverbial wrote:
Read the "fine print" in this Amazon item......

This is a plug Adapter only and not a voltage converter.
To convert the foreign 220V to 110V, you will need an additional voltage converter.

US-spec line voltage is 117 VAC, 60 Hz.

Across the pond, 220 VAC, 50 Hz is the standard.

You need a transformer.

HTH

Arjay
And I'd add, make it a quality transformer. I bought a cheap converter to take to Iraq (also were on 220 there) and fried some speakers (powered set) because the converter didn't work. Cheapo stuff (throw aways), not like the cost of fixing a fried reverb unit. I'd double check that they aren't okay for 220 though, I am not certain, I'd suggest contacting Fender Tech Support via email for the answer. Once you've sorted the voltage issue, a simple plug adapter would be my choice, rather than installing a new cable/end. especially if you need to convert voltage (if you do actually, the 110v supply will probably have the correct receptacle for the plug).

If those reissues are anything like the originals, they should sound awesome (had a brown tolex and a white tolex from the '60's about a dozen years ago, and they were incredible).

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T Bone D wrote:
I bought a cheap converter to take to Iraq (also were on 220 there) and fried some speakers (powered set) because the converter didn't work.


LOLOL

A buddy of mine took an Aiwa compact stereo with him to the box and tried to plug it into a wall socket in his unit's TSQ-73 command and control van. Everything in it is wired for 400 hz......you can guess the rest.

In the Nam we just had ghetto-blasters powered by BA30s so there wasn't any voltage problems (unless S4 happened to run short of batteries, ha ha).

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If you change the plug only, you will be letting the magic smoke out for sure then a plug adapter will be the least of your problems.


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Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 5:18 pm
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Hi there Angor, Welcome to the forum. If it were my unit and I intended to keep it, I would : install the Fender Export power transformer(047610); export power cable assembly(033331); power cable bushing(010401); fuse holder 5mm finger grip(036703; and fuse(250ma). This way all you need are the wall outlet adapters for various countries. The part numbers may have changed over the years, so I would double check my quotes. Any way, once the work is done, it should be a smooth road. Art

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I fried my T1 voice router once at work plugin it to a 220 APC, what kind of network appliance isnt rated 110-240??? Was on a weekend, my telco reseller send an engineer, he thinks the new unit it is rated 240 and plugs in it for a second great firework.

Incorrect voltage blows the fuse for sure but some time so much more...


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Okay !!! :p A lot bad stories I see.

Guess I'll just look for a version with European plug on it. But they're hard to find second hand in Europe. Because ... who would sell them , they're the best things on earth for reverb :) !


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True statement, best reverbs. Better scared than sorry. Good luck.


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Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 5:13 pm
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Hey Agnor, would it be possible to have the person get the parts and the work done here in US ? The parts would only be about $80 and the installation should be about $40. It's not a hard job at all. Then you would be all set and ready use the unit. Art

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It wasn't actually a real real friend. Just someone I knew, don't think he will do something like that. He would just sell it to somebody else...

What a hard world :) ! But they're just so god d*mn expensive in Europe. Ridiculous...

If I look on ebay I see shops in USA selling them for 550$ or cheaper.

The Reissue in Europe costs 850$ - 1050$ ö that's just mean.


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OK, then what about getting a step-up transformer, there in your location ? It was mentioned above that you would need a quality trans, and I agree, but it would not have to be a large trans. It could be mounted in any number of ways, but you would always have to haul it around and always use it. Do you know what I mean? Art

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Hi,

The frequency 50 or 60 Hz doesn't make difference for this kind of transfo.

But ask your friend to check if the AC transfo si P/N 047609 (US domestic only 110V) or P/N 047610 export 100V to 240V.
The export one can be easily rewired for Europe.

If there is domestic one, you need to order a export one transfo (cheaper) or external AC transformer (more expensive I beleive).

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