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The Bassman hopefully does NOT have direct PCB mounted power tubes...right???I think that alone scares me most about the BDRI.


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emanym wrote:
The Bassman hopefully does NOT have direct PCB mounted power tubes...right???I think that alone scares me most about the BDRI.
No ,they are mounted on the chassis,not directly to the board.Thats one of the big issues with the blues/hotrod deluxe series of amps.It produces too much heat.


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How are the earlier reissue Bassmans compared to the LTD ones.Will it be an issue that it has no adjustable bias pot?If I get it I wont be able to afford any modifications (at least for a while) & I surely can't do it myself.I'm still beating myself up over keeping BDRI or getting a used 59 RI,I got approx 2 weeks to decided.


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emanym wrote:
How are the earlier reissue Bassmans compared to the LTD ones.Will it be an issue that it has no adjustable bias pot?If I get it I wont be able to afford any modifications (at least for a while) & I surely can't do it myself.I'm still beating myself up over keeping BDRI or getting a used 59 RI,I got approx 2 weeks to decided.
go for the bassman.You wont be sorry.There is no comparison ,seriously.


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How are the earlier reissue Bassmans compared to the LTD ones.Will it be an issue that it has no adjustable bias pot?If I get it I wont be able to afford any modifications (at least for a while) & I surely can't do it myself.I'm still beating myself up over keeping BDRI or getting a used 59 RI,I got approx 2 weeks to decided.
go for the bassman.You wont be sorry.There is no comparison ,seriously.



+1 The Bassman is light years ahead in both tone, reliability build quality. Not all amps have or need an adjustable bias pot. It's only a resistor change if the bias is off.

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Hi emanym,
I too also have the Blues Deluxe RI and I haven't had any issues with it (yet) since I got it last August (09). My situation is such that the amp is moderately used and sits in one spot. I don't gig at all but needed volume and wanted the features found on the BDRI. They didn't have a Bassman LTD on hand at the time and it was a smidgeon more than I really wanted to spend at the time.
I was testing a VOX AC30CCX2(?) or the model with Blue speakers and thought it sounded pretty good. However, at $1800, I wasn't nuts about coughing up that much dough just yet. I've been buying stuff from this store for several years and when I asked the manager what he recommended he pointed at my exact amp. I asked him later why he chose that amp and he said it was my playing style. He'd been selling amps for over 20 years and had come to learn what sounds best. He said
a lot of customers will buy something they think is for them only to return it.
The store has a Bassman now and I am currently waiting for my Black American Standard Strat to arrive (It's in transit right now) and when it arrives I will ask to try the Bassman out in the isolation room.
My plans are to add a Telecaster, Gibson Les Paul Studio and a Les Paul 56 Goldtop VOS with P90s and a Fender Bass to my collection. All of which will
take awhile for me to acquire.

I've read 63supro posts in the past and his love and affection for the Hot Rod series amps are legendary. You could almost plug supro himself into the amp to get that great warm fuzz effect.
Like a lot of things, the older stuff is better but in the case of amps and guitars, that older stuff has been valued out of reach of most people's wallet.

Don't know if you can do it, but if so, I would go and try out a Bassman new or used and see if it is what you are looking for. The BDRI is definitely
going to give you a different sound from a Bassman. Whether it is better or worse depends on what YOU hear.

By way one could always add a cooling fan to those hot amps. :wink:
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Thanx for all the input.Turns out the place I found the '59 RI at won't ship & is about a 5hr drive each way so I guess I'm probably staying put unless I come across another good deal.As far as the BDRI goes,I really have no problem with how it sounds,it's the perfect wattage,small & not too heavy...it just scares me a little.I wish Fender would have just not even bothered with the 2nd channel which is pointless & the fx loop as well. Then they could've probably made it reliable too at the same price point :roll: .


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emanym wrote:
I wish Fender would have just not even bothered with the 2nd channel which is pointless & the fx loop as well. Then they could've probably made it reliable too at the same price point :roll: .


Perhaps this might be of interest to you......

http://www.tjadamowicz.com/amps/HRDConv/convert.html

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Just for the record, I still recommend Fender amp even new ones. The DRRI is a great sounding reliable amp as is the Super Reverb. I feel my distrust and hatred for the HRD Series is justified. I also own a new amp, It's just not a Fender. Until they get their act together in QC and build quality, it will probably be a long time before I buy another new Fender amp. The HRD amp I had wasn't the only new amp that's gone bad on me. My first GDec 15 went bad and now I'm getting some weird noises from my GDec 30 that replaced it. Like I said, it all justified. FMIC is a huge corporation and it seems profits win over reliability and quality. I'm glad the reissues are still around.

I still highly recommend the reissues. I'll build my next new amp myself. At least I know it will be built properly and hopefully reliable, and if it does crap out, it will be my own fault.

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Retroverbial wrote:
emanym wrote:
I wish Fender would have just not even bothered with the 2nd channel which is pointless & the fx loop as well. Then they could've probably made it reliable too at the same price point :roll: .


Perhaps this might be of interest to you......

http://www.tjadamowicz.com/amps/HRDConv/convert.html

Arjay


I'd be very interested...if it came like that & at the same price point no less,haha.I just don't have the skill to do something like that & even if I did,wouldn't buy a new amp to do it to anyway.


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Arjay, you're opening up a whole new can of worms. :mrgreen: TJ is one of the finest amp builders I've ever seen and just a seriously nice guy. His work is meticulous and he uses nothing but some of the best components on the market today.

And boys and girls be sure to look at the photos here
http://www.tjadamowicz.com/amps/HRDConv/convert.html
This is kind of what mine was looking like in less than a year.

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I like what he does to them .Point to point,very nice work indeed. :D


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Just in case i find one (59 RI..yeah,still lookin'),whats preferable LTD or first RI.,I believe the differences are :speakers,cabinet,adjustable bias & tube rectifier.I'm assuming both are fairly reliable as I don't read many Bassman complaints.


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I bought a 96 reissue really cheap.If you can find a older one for the right price, I would jump on it.LTDs are harder to come by and more expensive.It depends on if the added features are worth the extra money.


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63supro wrote:
TJ is one of the finest amp builders I've ever seen and just a seriously nice guy. His work is meticulous and he uses nothing but some of the best components on the market today.


Indeed. He did one helluva swell overhaul job on my '65 Princeton Reverb's power supply......then refused to take a dime for the work (I had to just about break his arm to accept my check for the cost of the parts)!

:mrgreen:

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