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Post subject: DRRI question - just curious
Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 3:58 pm
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Is the DRRI more about clean tone with lots of headroom or power tube saturation at moderate volume? I haven't had the chance to check one out yet and I'm curious about its primary appeal/use.

Same question on the Princeton RI.

Also (and I'm not too proud to admit that this might be a dumb question), why have 2 channels if the only difference is that channel 2 has reverb and vibrato, which can be turned off?


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Post subject: Re: DRRI question - just curious
Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 4:38 pm
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Mutthound wrote:
Is the DRRI more about clean tone with lots of headroom or power tube saturation at moderate volume? I haven't had the chance to check one out yet and I'm curious about its primary appeal/use.

Same question on the Princeton RI.

Also (and I'm not too proud to admit that this might be a dumb question), why have 2 channels if the only difference is that channel 2 has reverb and vibrato, which can be turned off?
I cant answer about the prri, but to me the drri is a great clean amp at moderate volumes.Obviously it doesnt have tons of headroom at 22 watts.The breakup at moderate volumes is descent,but to me tweed amps are for breakup tones and blackface are for clean primarily.If I was looking for a modestly powered amp for good power tube saturation, my eyes would be looking to the tweed deluxe pr something similar.But thats just my opinion.I do like the way the drri breaks up though.Also the vibrato channel is a little brighter than the normal to my ears.


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Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 5:21 pm
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Put a Fulltone OCD in front of each, dime them, then "step on the gas". You'll see what happens.

:mrgreen:

As for the dual channel configuration, one need only add an A/B/Y stompbox to the signal chain and voila!

Instant channel switching in a "vintage" amp.

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Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 10:55 pm
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Yeah Mutt, you're talking about two different animals here. Budglo nailed the DR response, clean up to mid power(or so) until the negative feedback loop is broken, then the power section goes into distortion. But like he said, it's not the smooth transition or tone of a Tweed Deluxe. Not a bad thing, just a characteristic of the amps. The Princeton Reverb, on the otherhand, is a more subtle sounding amp IMO. It's design is quite different and the sonic signature is quite evident(sans Arjay's pedals). IMO the Princeton is a premier recording amp, but many folks find ways to use them in the live band situations. The question about the channels is not"dumb", but my opinion might be. These are a throwback or tradition from the days when the amp had more than one purpose. The amp may have been used by more than one musician, or used with a microphone. The inputs did not only access different gain channels, but originally different impedance inputs. These were suitable for mic's and mic'd acoustic basses. Ampeg maintained this low impedance input for many more years than Fender. Everett Hull, the founder of Ampeg was a bass player and inventor of the "Amplified Peg", the electric bass violin. Oh well, just my take. Art

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Posted: Sat May 01, 2010 9:04 am
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The question about the channels is not"dumb", but my opinion might be. These are a throwback or tradition from the days when the amp had more than one purpose. The amp may have been used by more than one musician, or used with a microphone. The inputs did not only access different gain channels, but originally different impedance inputs. These were suitable for mic's and mic'd acoustic basses. Ampeg maintained this low impedance input for many more years than Fender. Everett Hull, the founder of Ampeg was a bass player and inventor of the "Amplified Peg", the electric bass violin. Oh well, just my take. Art


I believe you are right. Why else would there be four inputs (at two levels of sensitivity)? This is a question I never thought about before, but there was a day (quite a few years ago, now) when my Silvertone 1484 was the PA -- a couple of high impedance mics, rhythm and lead guitars, and the bass player plugged into his own amp. It was primitive, but setting up didn't take as long as it does now, what with setting up the speaker stacks, arranging the lights, running wires to power the keyboards, the pedals, the various amps, the everything else....

I still have the Silvertone, and also a DRRI. Both great amps, in their own way.

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Post subject: DRRi
Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 10:42 am
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Question,

is there a way to get a higher ceiling of Clean from the DRRI?

right now mine breaks up at about 5 or so.....

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Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 12:48 pm
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newlife15 wrote:
Question,

is there a way to get a higher ceiling of Clean from the DRRI?

right now mine breaks up at about 5 or so.....

Newlife15


All or a combination of:
1. Replace stock speaker with one that has a higher Sensitivity. The stock Jensen C12K is rated at 99.1 db.
2. Bias the amp a little colder.
3. Put in matched 6V6's that are rated for more headroom. Get Groove Tubes 6V6's somewhere in their 8-10 rating scale (1 being early breakup and 10 being later breakup). Or go to www.eurotubes.com and contact them with the specific amount of headroom you want and they will hook you up with tubes rated for later breakup.
4. Replace the 5AR4 rectifier tube with a Weber Copper Cap solid state rectifier. These just plug and play, but would need to bias first to be safe.

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