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Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 9:17 pm
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Greetings,
This is my first post on this forum. I just purchased a Deluxe Reverb on Saturday and I am really enjoying the sound. I looked at a lot of Fender tube amps and this one seemed to be just right for me. My biggest hurdle was the 22 watts of tube power. Having several Line 6 amps that are 75 watt and 150 watt solid state amps I was not sure if the Deluxe would be loud enough. The short answer is that it is loud enough for me. Today I ran my 4x12 Line 6 speaker cabinet with the Fender. It sounded great. Is anyone using an extra speaker cabinet for their Deluxe Reverb's? If so what types are you using. The Jenson speaker sounds great. Down the road I was thinking of picking up a 1x12 or 2x12 cab to fit underneath the Deluxe. Does Fender sell a cabinet that matches the Deluxe Reverb?
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Kenny V


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Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 5:47 am
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Hi Kenny and welcome!
What you may notice is that tube watts sound a lot louder than SS watts. A twenty watt tube amp will have no problem keeping up with a 75 watt SS amp. Actually my 20 watter flattens my friends 75 watt Line Six amp. If you need to move more air, add a cabinet. Also the tube amp will generally cut the mix better if it has a decent speaker.


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Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 8:36 pm
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Thanks 63supro. For now I will just run the Line 6 cab. I forgot that tube amps are different than SS amps. It's been 46 years since I have owned a tube amp.


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Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 8:57 pm
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Welcome back to the land of tubes. :wink:


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Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 1:40 pm
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I bought a deluxe reverb in november and it has been my main amp since.I love the tone and you can play it anywhere.It keeps my 59 bassman ri in the closet now.At my age the last thing I need to do is lug around a big amp,besides ,we dont gig anywhere where I can really open the bassman up anymore.


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Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 3:47 pm
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Congrats on the amp mate!

Just a couple of things I experienced when using an ext cabinet with the Deluxe Reverb at gigs.

Even without an ext cabinet the Deluxe Reverb can really put out gobs of quality bass and great tone at a respectable volume.

What I found was that at volume levels where the amp sounded nice 4-5, with an extra cabinet, the stage volume was starting to get up there again just as it would with a bigger amp, and so the whole scenario was conflicting with the concept of why I got the amp in the first place.

1. Small package, easy to carry.
2. Easy and fast to set up.
3. Great tone at a reasonable stage volume.
4. Can be used at a venue the size of an outdoor Blues Festival and still sound huge when mic'd, but can be carried in one hand and guitar in the other.

They do sound great with an extra cabinet so I say go for it and experiment with your new amp, but when I went down that road I found it also negated some of the great pluses of the Deluxe Reverb.


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Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 3:53 pm
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BTW Kenny, welcome to the forum.


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Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 9:20 pm
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Thanks everyone for the responses. I got away from playing music for quite a few years, busy raising kids and working. I have been back playing for two years now and have been chasing sound, hence the purchase of three amps and two new guitars in the last two years. I felt like Rip Van Winkle when I went into Guitar Center and Sam Ash after not setting foot in a music store in 30 plus years, a real eye opener. Long story short back in 1967 I purchase what I had thought was my last amp and electric guitar. I narrowed it down to a SS Haynes Amp or a Fender Deluxe Reverb. I got the guitar right, a Fender Telecaster white with a special order maple neck and fret board. I still own the guitar, which is still in excellent condition. I bought the Haynes amp because I had problems with my old tube amp and figured solid state was the way to go. The Haynes lasted many years. I gave the Haynes amp to a friends son two years ago who had just started playing guitar and the amp is still working . I always regretted not purchasing the Fender amp so I am quite pleased with my new Deluxe Reverb purchase. It turns out the Fender has the sound I have been looking for. I probably will not purchase another speaker cabinet for the amp. I can always use the Line 6 Cabinet if I feel the need. I do agree with No457 Snowy reasoning regarding the Deluxe.
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Kenny V


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Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 12:04 am
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Kenny - congratulations on a great amp purchase! The Deluxe really is almost the perfect Fender amp in their line for so many occasions and uses.

I have a 1x12 Celestion closed-back extension for my Princeton Reverb for when we were playing iffy PA clubs, etc. Worked well, and gave FOH options on which speaker to mic.

At one club, our drummer couldn't hear anything and needed to keep time; I took the extension cab, turned it sideways to him, and night went great.

2 things I'd suggest you get for your DRRI:
Tiltback stand - either the Ultimate Genesis or something similar. You'll be amazed how much better you can hear it when it's tilted up at your ears vs. your ankles. The Genesis folds up small enough to fit in the back of the amp.

Cover - if yours didn't come with a cover, I believe Fender mades covers, and D2F makes great ones as well. I have one for my Princeton Reverb and am getting one custom made for the Bandmaster.

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Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 11:17 am
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63supro wrote:
Welcome back to the land of tubes. :wink:


+1


We won't even get into the class A, AB, etc. :wink:

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Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 9:06 pm
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nedorama,
I did purchase a Fender amp cover for the Deluxe Reverb and tonight I purchased a Fender Deluxe 1x12 celestion closed back extension speaker. I removed the handle and set the Deluxe Reverb amp on top of the extension speaker, It sounds great. I also ordered a Voodoo Lab Amp Pedal which will allow me to play my guitar through all three amps at one time. A bit of an over-kill but what the heck, I own three amps so I will have an almost endless variation of options with this pedal. Oh what do I buy next?
Kenny V


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Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 3:28 am
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Kenny V wrote:
nedorama,
I did purchase a Fender amp cover for the Deluxe Reverb and tonight I purchased a Fender Deluxe 1x12 celestion closed back extension speaker. I removed the handle and set the Deluxe Reverb amp on top of the extension speaker, It sounds great. I also ordered a Voodoo Lab Amp Pedal which will allow me to play my guitar through all three amps at one time. A bit of an over-kill but what the heck, I own three amps so I will have an almost endless variation of options with this pedal. Oh what do I buy next?
Kenny V
Why another guitar of course. 8)


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Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 7:31 am
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Nice one Kenny! You're well on your way to getting G.A.S. - Gear Acquisition Syndrome!

For playing at home, you may find that the Auralex GRAMMA is a great tool. This decouples your amp from the floor so that you still get great tone, but you don't have every little thing in the house rattling every time you play. They cost $50 and if you've ever had rattles in the house while recording, or played at a show where your amp or the bass amp makes the drumset rattle, these can help out dramatically.

Microphones - at clubs where you need more oomph, you can't always count on the club/bar having the best mics, or in some cases, enough mics to mic your amp. Shure's SM57 is a great overall utility mic that works great on the grill and can be used for just about anything. I own 3 for our band and it sounds good; I bought a thing called a Z Bar http://www.performanceaudio.com/cgi/pro ... ts_id=5469

that lets you position the mic without a microphone stand - very helpful on small stages where you need every inch of room. the bar can either go underneath the bottom of the amp, or under the handle. With your amp and extension cabinet, you could mic the top or bottom speaker - your call.

What I've recently purchased as an upgrade to the SM57 is the Sennheiser e906.
http://www.sennheiserusa.com/profession ... 900_500202

This is a great microphone and sounds fantastic on guitar amps - be it my Princeton Reverb, my Bandmaster, or my new Dr. Z Mini Z into that extension cab I talked about. Plus, it doesn't need a stand - it hangs down over your amp with just the microphone cable, so no stand needed (did I mention those tiny crowded stages?) They're expensive, but worth it. FYI - the less expensive e609 is not the same mic and is similar to an SM57.

Mic Cables - I get all mine from Audiopile.net; they're much better quality than the Hosa/Generic you find at the mass stores.

Guitar Cables - I swear by George L's for everything - leads, pedalboard patching, even my unbalanced 1/4" connections on my rack at home. Cut to length without ever touching a soldering iron, plus they're super low noise - won a Guitar Player cord shootout a few years ago.

Good luck!

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