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Post subject: Is anyone having trouble finding Fender Deluxe VM?
Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 10:26 pm
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I have purchased two of this model. Both were defective. I’m extremely upset and am curious to know if anyone has similar problems with this amplifier. Please inform as soon as possible with details on what specifically is defective on your amp.

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What problem did you have? Were the issues the same on both amps? I see these at GC all the time but I'm not sure how well they sell. You'll find a lot of opinions on the VMs here. I have an SCXD which I've been happy with as a practice amp however it seems the Bandmaster and Deluxe VMs have a few more critics. Do a search and you'll see quite a number of opinions, pro ans con. The biggest complaint I've heard however is sound as opposed to reliability.


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Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 1:53 pm
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Do yourself a favor, save a little more money and get a 65 Deluxe Reverb Reissue. It's a better built and better sounding amp. Gimmicky amps are nothing but headaches anyway if they're not properly designed and built. You always think you're getting a lot for your money, but you usually get a bunch of problems. My tech has been beginning to see quite a few VM's on his bench with various problems. The DRRI is a serious, professional quality amp and should give years of trouble free service.


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Post subject: Re: Is anyone having trouble finding Fender Deluxe VM?
Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 7:48 pm
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mr.335td wrote:
I have purchased two of this model. Both were defective. I’m extremely upset and am curious to know if anyone has similar problems with this amplifier. Please inform as soon as possible with details on what specifically is defective on your amp.

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I have my Deluxe VM for about 4 monts and was happy with it, but recently it started to randomly make a noise when I stop playing. It sounds like electrical interferance.It is irregular and kind of scratchy...
It makes this kind of noice even when I disconect the guitar cable and shut off all the effects. Tubes are Sovtech
Any advice what this could be ? I know it's still under warranty but I'm playing everyday and would hate to be without it.


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Post subject: Re: Is anyone having trouble finding Fender Deluxe VM?
Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 4:03 am
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kote831 wrote:
mr.335td wrote:
I have purchased two of this model. Both were defective. I’m extremely upset and am curious to know if anyone has similar problems with this amplifier. Please inform as soon as possible with details on what specifically is defective on your amp.

Thanks!



I have my Deluxe VM for about 4 monts and was happy with it, but recently it started to randomly make a noise when I stop playing. It sounds like electrical interferance.It is irregular and kind of scratchy...
It makes this kind of noice even when I disconect the guitar cable and shut off all the effects. Tubes are Sovtech
Any advice what this could be ? I know it's still under warranty but I'm playing everyday and would hate to be without it.
I would check and make sure it isnt something from your electrical outlet first and then I would take it in since its under warranty.Its always a good idea to have a plan B around in the form of another amp just in case, especially if you gig.You never know.What supro said about the deluxe reverb is right on.Keep your eys open for deals.I bought mine in november for 810 brand new.11 bucks more than the VM is selling for.VM is just a gimmicky amp wannabe.


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Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 5:02 am
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For a fair while I used a surge protector between my amps and the wall socket, the power here is really dirty and spikes happen all the time.
Anyhow when I bought my last marshall I noticed a oscilating kind of fuzz behind the sound of the amp. So I sent it back to marshall, they give it a once over and change the preamp valves and send it back. Plug it in, same thing again, older marshalls not doing it. I tore my hair out trying to find the source of the problem. Non of my other amps did reacted to the surge protector like that. When I finaly discoverd it was ok straight into the wall, I couldnt believe it. Both my marshalls are JCM800's (and yes I used to practice through both at the same time in the house) one was ok with the surge protector the other not ok. Guess some amps just react differently and it doesnt have much to do with the type of amp. Also I get significantly more hum in the kitchen and livingroom than I do the bedrooms.
Funny thing power outlets.

The DRRI is a great amp if you want a clean sound. If you want any kind of authentic driven amp sound, forget it.

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For a fair while I used a surge protector between my amps and the wall socket, the power here is really dirty and spikes happen all the time.
Anyhow when I bought my last marshall I noticed a oscilating kind of fuzz behind the sound of the amp. So I sent it back to marshall, they give it a once over and change the preamp valves and send it back. Plug it in, same thing again, older marshalls not doing it. I tore my hair out trying to find the source of the problem. Non of my other amps did reacted to the surge protector like that. When I finaly discoverd it was ok straight into the wall, I couldnt believe it. Both my marshalls are JCM800's (and yes I used to practice through both at the same time in the house) one was ok with the surge protector the other not ok. Guess some amps just react differently and it doesnt have much to do with the type of amp. Also I get significantly more hum in the kitchen and livingroom than I do the bedrooms.
Funny thing power outlets.

The DRRI is a great amp if you want a clean sound. If you want any kind of authentic driven amp sound, forget it.
I agree,the blackface amps by themselves arent great overdriven,Not bad,but not great.Thats why I use a pedal.If you are looking for overdriven tones ,Fender tweeds and Marshal ams are hard to beat, but clean they are just so so.Its really hard to find the best of both worlds.


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Its really hard to find the best of both worlds.


Aint it just. I think it was VHT or maybe Randall that designed a amp to do both equally well. It was basicaly 2 amps in one box. Theres too much to change to make one amp that excells at drive to excell at clean or viceversa.
I really think you just have to pick your sound and amp accordingly.

I expected that Randall head with the switchable modules to change between great clean and great drive. It got close but nowhere near the quality of completely switching amp.

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I have a Band-Master VM (head version of the DR VM) and it's given no problems in a year.

I also have a DRRI, and I agree with the poster that it's a better amp -- it has that Fender voice, that the VM series doesn't seem to have.

Luckily, I'm able to indulge myself with amps a little -- I also have a Jazzmaster Ultralight and a Blues Jr NOS -- so I thought having a head with a 15 cab would be cool.

So it is...but if I had to take just one, it'd probably be the DRRI.

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It's always been my experience that the DRRI really sings when it's cranked. It a different kind of distortion because the 6v6 power tubes bloom and the tube rectifier sags causing some compression. Some people like myself like the sound, some don't. It's all a matter of taste.


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63supro wrote:
It's always been my experience that the DRRI really sings when it's cranked. It a different kind of distortion because the 6v6 power tubes bloom and the tube rectifier sags causing some compression. Some people like myself like the sound, some don't, it is all a matter of taste.


Absolutely, it's horses for courses. You wouldnt take a twin to a audition for megadeth and you wouldnt take a Mode Four to a audition for KT Tunstall. You gotta pick the amp that best suits your purposes.

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Post subject: Re: Is anyone having trouble finding Fender Deluxe VM?
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 2:35 pm
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I have had the same problem with my Deluxe VM -- making random interference noise, popping, crackling sounds -- doesn't seem to matter what outlet it is plugged into or whether the effects are on or off, in fact removing the guitar cable from the amp will not even stop it. Happened first on a paying gig and was very embarassing...My local repair shop cannot duplicate it but I will have to take it in again because it happens all the time.

I really love the sound of this amp and was heartbroken when all the defects starting happening. Anyone have this same problem with a Deluxe VM or Bandmaster VM?

I have my Deluxe VM for about 4 monts and was happy with it, but recently it started to randomly make a noise when I stop playing. It sounds like electrical interferance.It is irregular and kind of scratchy...
It makes this kind of noice even when I disconect the guitar cable and shut off all the effects. Tubes are Sovtech
Any advice what this could be ? I know it's still under warranty but I'm playing everyday and would hate to be without it.


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Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 10:31 am
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I purchased a Bandmaster VM head in Jan. 2010. I really like the clean channel. After about 4 months it suddenly started making a lot of noise, sort of like a nest of hornets had been stirred up inside of it.
No signal, just racket.
I took it to my local repair shop, an authorized Fender center. Found out there was a Fender Service bulletin on the problem, an uninsulated jumper in close proximity to a trace. This had arced and fried many componets. Repairs were covered by warranty and the amp has performed flawlessly since. However, I find myself choosing to use other amps, and I think I am going to sell it.


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garryrenfro wrote:
However, I find myself choosing to use other amps, and I think I am going to sell it.


Vintage Bandmaster heads can often be found for six bills or less on Ebay. And unlike the "Hiss-Master", they're as quiet as a church mouse and rock-solid reliable.

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Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 4:29 pm
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garryrenfro wrote:
However, I find myself choosing to use other amps, and I think I am going to sell it.


Vintage Bandmaster heads can often be found for six bills or less on Ebay. And unlike the "Hiss-Master", they're as quiet as a church mouse and rock-solid reliable.

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+1 I wish I never sold mine. :|

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