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Post subject: Fender Amp Settings for Welcome to the Jungle?
Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 9:06 pm
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I've got a Fender Super Champ XD, and Fender GDec 15amp Amps. I'm playing on a Squire.

I'm trying to determine the amp settings for Welcome To the Jungle, specifically delay settings, voice, and/or any other fx settings, plus the normal stuff. Using the delay settings on the XD, I've not yet been able to replicate the sound on the intro riff. I've not tried the GDec yet. Any ideas would be appreciated. Thanks!


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Well your not going to get too near it, no matter where you set the knobs. I'd go Marshall stack setting with the gain at around 5, bass and mids on max treb on 4/5. Use plenty of the long delay (4-6 on the effects level knob). You need the power amp mids for that sound so set your volume to around 8. Put your squier on the bridge/mid pickup selection and put the middle pickups tone control on zero.

That should get you kind of there at a bedroom level.

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Marshall stack is beyond my means at this point. I'll have to settle for the closest thing I can get on my Fender amps for now. Any suggestions for those?
Thanks Nick! :)


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It would be helpful if you let us know what model Squier you have. Tele? Strat? Jagmaster? Hello Kitty model? The guitar is the other half of the equation besides the amp. Slash uses a Les Paul with humbuckers. If your Squier has humbuckers then you're halfway there to that sound.

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metropolis74 wrote:
It would be helpful if you let us know what model Squier you have. Tele? Strat? Jagmaster? Hello Kitty model? The guitar is the other half of the equation besides the amp. Slash uses a Les Paul with humbuckers. If your Squier has humbuckers then you're halfway there to that sound.


The Hello Kitty, no wait it's the Squire Strat. :D Thanks for asking! Should I have the pickup selector on the humbuckers?
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I hate the way everyone presumes its Slash's part people want to learn. Izzy's part is far more ambitious on this song and Izzy recorded Appetite for Destruction using Fender amps.

Niki is right, Slash you will need Marshall, if you learn Izzy's part (left channel) you can do it on a Fender. Izzy used the neck pick-up (p-90's) with everything at 5 and 'natural' gain as in cranked. No reverb.

p.s. Slash is ALWAYS Gibson+Marshall live but on 'Sucker Train Blues' from Contraband, one example of many, he uses a '56 Tele through an AC30.

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Celtic Cyclonus wrote:
I hate the way everyone presumes its Slash's part people want to learn. Izzy's part is far more ambitious on this song and Izzy recorded Appetite for Destruction using Fender amps.

Niki is right, Slash you will need Marshall, if you learn Izzy's part (left channel) you can do it on a Fender. Izzy used the neck pick-up (p-90's) with everything at 5 and 'natural' gain as in cranked. No reverb.

p.s. Slash is ALWAYS Gibson+Marshall live but on 'Sucker Train Blues' from Contraband, one example of many, he uses a '56 Tele through an AC30.

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Thanks for the info. On sheet music for this song, which I have yet to see, are these parts listed as part 1 and 2 or Lead and Rhythm? And who did what?


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They usually go in order of when they come in. Slash is obviously first cos he takes the intro but that will be panned in the middle and Izzy's Guitar II most likely but there are plenty of overdubs including the solos. On any Guns record Izzy is on the left, even his solos cos he was a 'one take guy'. Slash is on the right side with his solos panned in the middle. Listen through headphones.

The only exception to this is Live Like A Suicide/GN'R Lies side A where they are the other way around.

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I believe when Nikininja told you to use the Marshall stack setting, he meant channel 8 or 9 on the scxd. Probably 8.

I've been trying to get my scxd to sound like that as well without any luck. Its a great little amp but I just don't think its possible to dial in a decent Marshall sound. I ended up buying a pedal for that.

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Celtic Cyclonus wrote:

p.s. Slash is ALWAYS Gibson+Marshall live but on 'Sucker Train Blues' from Contraband, one example of many, he uses a '56 Tele through an AC30.

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not really. While a big gibson fan, Appetite was recorded with a LP clone. BC Rich mockingbird used extensively as well as strats and teles through various amps (mostly Marshall) in GNR and Snakepit, well before VR.

This is from GP interviews going back to 92.

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Celtic Cyclonus wrote:

p.s. Slash is ALWAYS Gibson+Marshall live but on 'Sucker Train Blues' from Contraband, one example of many, he uses a '56 Tele through an AC30.

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not really. While a big gibson fan, Appetite was recorded with a LP clone. BC Rich mockingbird used extensively as well as strats and teles through various amps (mostly Marshall) in GNR and Snakepit, well before VR.

This is from GP interviews going back to 92.

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I know that Slashed loved Mockingbirds and Fenders as well. According to his autobiography he was given his signature Les Paul by David Geffen for recording the solos for Appetite. It wasn't a clone. He also went throught multiple Marshall heads before he came across a modified one he used for the solos.

For those of you G'n R fans out there, I would really suggest reading "Slash." It's a great book.

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nedorama wrote:
Celtic Cyclonus wrote:

p.s. Slash is ALWAYS Gibson+Marshall live but on 'Sucker Train Blues' from Contraband, one example of many, he uses a '56 Tele through an AC30.

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not really. While a big gibson fan, Appetite was recorded with a LP clone. BC Rich mockingbird used extensively as well as strats and teles through various amps (mostly Marshall) in GNR and Snakepit, well before VR.

This is from GP interviews going back to 92.


If you read my post I said 'LIVE' (only exceptions being the Mockingbird for 'You Could Be Mine', one song is NOT extensively, and a Travis Bean or modded Strat for Slide on 'Bad Obsession') and I also said 'one example of many'!
Again not really the Mockingbird doesn't feature on Appetite. The only different guitar on AFD apart from the LP replicas which you are right about is an SG he used on My Michelle. This is from Slash himself! :wink:

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sorry - didn't see the live mention.

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