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Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 12:38 am
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sorry just read about the deluxe...stay clear? and try out the deluxe reverb...sorry


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Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 7:33 am
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You may dig the Deluxe VM because of its versatility, but I'm guessing it will sound "digital" if compared to a 65 Deluxe Reverb Reissue. I haven't played the Deluxe VM, but in my experience with other "hybrid" amps (combination of tubes and digital effects) I've found that they don't produce that true tube tone.

I own a Deluxe Reverb Reissue and I love it. But, as it's a reissue of an amp made in 1965, it doesn't have features like: effects loop, headphone/line out, etc. What it does have is tons of classic Fender tone.

Another thing to note about the DRRI is the bright cap on channel 2 (vibrato channel). This causes distortion and OD pedals to sound very fizzy at low volumes. I almost returned my amp because of this, but I did some research online and found that it's only on channel 2. Drive pedals sound good on channel 1 at low volumes. So I bought a A/B/Y pedal and split my signal between the channels, going through channel 2 for my cleans and switching to channel 1 for OD.

Supro, Art, and other more tech savvy forum members can probably shed additional light on the bright cap situation in the DRRI. I know the bright cap on channel 2 can be removed/bypassed in some way to make that channel more pedal friendly, but I don't know the procedure.

I'm not an amp tech, but I stayed at a Holiday Inn. 8)


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Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 9:03 am
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On the VM series, while it's great that it has built in effects for the beginner, you're then locked into those effects - with pedals, you have the ability to customize your signal chain/tone to personalize to a far greater extent. It can cost more, but you can also add pedals as your budget allows. I've been buying pedals since 1982, and still get excited to see what can go on my board to improve sound, or what can I swap out to get different sounds.

If you're serious about tone, the Deluxe Reverb is a great amp that you'll keep for years - on the bright channel, I'm sure it's an easy component fix; Art or 63supro can probably give the details. I always play my Bandmaster with the Bright switch off, which the soundman always appreciates.

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A lot of DRRI owners just clip the bright cap. The Deluxe VM is nowhere near the tone or build quality of the 65 Deluxe Reverb Reissue. If you go the Vintage Molested route, you may as well wait for the GDec 3 30. It also has a ton of effects.
The Deluxe VM is nothing like the DRRI. It uses 6L6 power tubes instead of 6V6. The VM uses 2 preamp tubes, the DRRI uses one 5AR4 rectifier tube, four 12AX7 preamp tubes, two 12AT7 tubes. The VM IMO is a tone toy, the DRRI is a tone monster.


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how is the deluxe reverb on loud rhythm clean playing? does wacking the amp cause it to distort is anyway?

I'm thinking of combing the amp with a xotic bb preamp or a OSD?? thoughts? as on booster/overdrive pedal for dist lead sounds


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Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 2:19 am
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ok i should be trying out a reverb deluxe in the next week or so depending of stock levels. really looking forward to it!

does it matter tht there is no effects loop if you wanna run like delays, chorus boosters? can they al go at the front of the amp and still sound good???


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Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 4:13 am
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dean111music wrote:
ok i should be trying out a reverb deluxe in the next week or so depending of stock levels. really looking forward to it!

does it matter tht there is no effects loop if you wanna run like delays, chorus boosters? can they al go at the front of the amp and still sound good???
Absolutely you can run them in the front of the amp and still sound good.I bought my DRRI several months ago and havent looked back.I gig roughly once a week and it is the only amp I am using these days.Dont even use my 59 Bassman anymore.


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Crank up the verb and use a nice analog delay and you'll be loving it. Modulation effects work great in front of the DRRI.

I knew I was going to buy my DRRI as soon as I plugged into it, but I hung out in the corner of Guitar Center and played it for at least an hour before I walked over to the counter to pay for it.

I was right next to the keyboard section and, at one point, I noticed that a guy had cranked up a keyboard and was jamming along with me. I looked over and he had a big smile on his face. We both started laughing and kept it going for a few minutes. That was cool.

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hi at the weekend i went too 3 big stores and all have sold out of the deluxe reverb!! i was gutted but i did try out a Princeton 65 going into a blackstar dual dist pedal. I was really impressed with the amp and pedal. Loved the cean sound which the amp gave me and the pedal was really versitile. You could get so many great sounds out of the one pedal.

They guy at the shop did say if you liked the Princeton 65 you will love the deluxe reverb. Is there alot of difference to the clean sound?

Just brought an Fulltone OCD v3 off ebay yeasterday so looking forward to trying that out!!

Anyone recommend a good crunch sounding pedal? Really liked the Blackstar! But now i got the OCD may go for an xotic AC booster??? can anyone compare them two?


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OCD is a great pedal paired with the Deluxe Reverb.

Deluxe Reverb has the clean of a Princeton 65, but when you crank the volume, you get power tube distortion, which IMHO is a glorious sound you won't get from a solid state amp like the Princeton 65.

FYI - check shops or papers for a used Fender Deluxe Reverb - you may be able to pick up a Silverface DR cheap as chips vs. the reissue and have arguably a better amp.

For me for crunch, I have a Barber Direct Drive I use in front of my modded Princeton Reverb and Bandmaster combo and have been really happy with it.

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can you explain a bit more about the Silverface DR please. why it's better? should i get a 100% original amp or does it matter if it has been modded? seems like a lot of people mod heres?

if it is modded what mods would be useful to have and why?

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nedorama wrote:
OCD is a great pedal paired with the Deluxe Reverb.

Deluxe Reverb has the clean of a Princeton 65, but when you crank the volume, you get power tube distortion, which IMHO is a glorious sound you won't get from a solid state amp like the Princeton 65.

FYI - check shops or papers for a used Fender Deluxe Reverb - you may be able to pick up a Silverface DR cheap as chips vs. the reissue and have arguably a better amp.

For me for crunch, I have a Barber Direct Drive I use in front of my modded Princeton Reverb and Bandmaster combo and have been really happy with it.
My 2cents is the 65 Deluxe RI is based on the 65 circuit (blackface) and the silverface is a little different.Most people prefer the blackface circuit.The silver face deluxe reverb can be had for probably cheaper than a new reissue, but not by much these days.To me there isnt any advantage other than price to the silver face.Sure its point to point, but all that means is they are easier to work on.And its not easy finding an all original these days.The reissue can be had for around 800 bucks these days,plus it comes with a 5 yr warranty.Built like a tank too.


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the Reissue is a good amp; since I believe the OP is in the UK, there may be less of a price advantage or no price advantage to a reissue vs. new. There may also be better tubes/speaker (or not).

As for reliability, the RI should be very reliable, on a SF DR, changing parts can be fairly minor and shifting it to blackface specs if desired is a few components away.

Just thought I'd add the suggestion. In either case, always play before you buy if you can, or know what you're getting into.

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