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Post subject: Boss Pedal For H R Deluxe
Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 3:45 am
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I have experimented and changed the tubes in my HRD trying to improve the dirt channels. I find that no matter what I have tried there is a compramise then with the clean channel.
My thoughts are now to put a Boss Overdrive through the front end. I Play blues and would like to know what anyone else is using.
In short Blues Driver or OD3 ?
P.S I use a Strat.

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Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 4:35 am
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Why boss? Boss pedals can be very normal sounding.

Have a look at fulltone, lovepedal and MXR.

Ideally, if your doing blues you want to try an Ibanez TubeScreamer. They're tone monsters, really are.

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Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 4:57 am
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I use a ibanez tubescreamer with all my amps because it is pretty transparent and gives me that mid boost i am looking for .I have heard others rave about the OCD too.I used to have a boss bluesdriver and I felt it colored my tone too much.I would suggest going out and trying some pedals.Usually the places I go have a hot rod there to demo.Good luck.


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Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 6:46 am
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Thanks guys. That's interesting I will check them out.
There is a problem in my part of the world with music shops and trying stuff out.
When I went to buy my amp no one had one in stock I just took a chance on the internet having read all the reviews & listening to demo's on You Tube.
Not very satisfactory for sure certainly hit & miss.
Same with my Strat Deluxe, had to buy it on the net, no one had what I wanted.

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Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 7:44 pm
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I just bought the Ibanez Ts9 Tube Screamer and I love. Went to GC with intention of buying a Boss distortion pedal. Decided to try the tubescreamer out, and I just loved it. Sounds great with my SCXD.

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Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 10:41 pm
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Our other guitar player in our band has a HR Deluxe and bought the Fulltone OCD - pairs up well with that amp. We mostly play blues/rock in our band, so it sounds good.

On mine, I use a Paul Cochrane Timmy for great, transparent overdrive; a Barber Direct Drive for more overdriven tones, and a Keeley-modded TS9 for more modern tones. I'd go with all three before a Boss pedal.

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Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 6:50 am
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I'd go with anything but a Tube Screamer just to be a little original. I have an old Tube Screamer that I don't use much anymore because everybody has them. The Fulltone stuff is nice as are Modtone and Electro Harmonix. I used to love the Muff Fuzz. I just ordered parts to build one myself from an old schematic I found. I'm doing the transistor version like my original. Fun Stuff.


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Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:56 am
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This is getting more complicated. I suppose that is because tone is subjective ?
Blues is what I play so as I see it I can't be far away from my goal, anyway that is what it sounds like when I play.
I have a zoom G2.1u that I have been experimenting with the parameters, one of which is a simulation of the boss OD-1... This sounds not to bad to me but the setting for the drive is at the limit and to my ears needs to be a little fatter.
If I use the drive channel on the amp to fatten it up it goes muddy.
The other drive options on the zoom tend to make the tone of the amp over processed.

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Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 11:15 am
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I went with a Boss Blues Driver BD-2. I compared it with both a Tubescreamer and a Big Muff, and I found it , to my ears, to have the best tone. I found the TS unimpressive, and the Big Muff kinda cheesy.


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Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 11:32 am
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I went with a Boss Blues Driver BD-2. I compared it with both a Tubescreamer and a Big Muff, and I found it , to my ears, to have the best tone. I found the TS unimpressive, and the Big Muff kinda cheesy.
Funny, I did just the opposite.I thought the blues driver colored the tone of the amp too much.What I was looking for was just something to push my amp into its natural overdrive sooner,not something that sounds like an overdriven amp.Lately I have been using a graphic equalizer for a clean boost.


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Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 12:03 pm
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If you want more of your amp, try the Paul Cochrane Timmy. Incredibly transparent, and can just "push" your amp a little more. Boutique pedal at only $170.

Another choice - Keeley's Katana Boost hits your amp hard to overdrive it naturally. Great for non channel switching amps to give yourself a clean/overdriven solo.

On the TS9 - bought one, and was horribly unimpressed with the stock version. Sent it to Robert Keeley to mod, and it's much better now. However, with the Timmy, Direct Drive and the Katana, I don't use the TS9 except when I want a really distorted sound for certain covers.

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Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 1:07 pm
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Pushing the amp as nedorama discribes is what I suppose I was trying to do originally. I purchased an atenuator to soak the power. This sounds only OK ,as I found if used to soak to much it spoils the tone of the amp plus you can not then get a good tone for playing both lead & ryhthm. only one or the other.
This is why I was going down the o/d pedal route thus being able to switch from lead to chords.
I have been back on You Tube to see some demos of the pedals advised by you guys and I think there is probably no right or wrong and I do like the sound of the Boss.......

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Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 1:20 pm
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You need to get the pedal that YOU like to get the sound that's in your head. If the Boss does it for you that's great.

I tried the EH English Muffin and liked that quite a bit. Transparent boosters are great too. Seymour Duncan has one that I liked quite a bit.

Tone is very subjective and varies widely with guitar, strings, amp even cords to some degree.


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Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 2:37 pm
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so right.

Recommendations and even youtube videos can only take you so far - you really need to try these pedals out with your guitar, amp and other pedals to see if the interaction between you and all of those works for you.

The better shops will let you come in with your rig and try out pedals, which is how I got to know these pedals and put them on my board:
Keeley Compressor
Keeley Katana
Paul Cochrane Timmy

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I have a Fulltone OCD v.3 that I use on my trri and it sounds fantastic. There have been alot of great recommendations so far and you really couldn't go wrong with any of them, so it boils down to what sound appeals to you.
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