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Post subject: SRRI not as versitile?.....
Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 7:24 am
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Im selling my SRRI for a hotrod deluxe with a 12 inch ext cab. Its an incredibly hard decision but im not just strictly a blues player and it seems that the amp only excells at being jazz and blues amp. The hotrod deluxe seems to do everything verrryyy well ....Has anybody had any experience with both amps that could weigh in on how they compare to eachother. I dont want to sell this amp and regret it later especially becasue i bought the amp pretty much brand new for only $1000. Am i making a mistake?


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Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 7:39 am
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Yes I have experience with both and yes you are making a HUGE mistake. The HRDlx does not do everything well. The SRRI is a well made professional amp. The HRDlx isn't. If you want to dump the SRRI you can do a lot better for the money than the HRDlx. The only thing my HRDlx did well was break down and sound bad when I cranked it. It's not good for any serious gigging. I'd look at the Supersonic and steer clear of the HRD series all together. Just do a search or ask your question on www.thefenderforum.com you'll get great advise from some very knowledgeable people there.

I dumped my HRDlx for an Egnater Rebel 20. It sounds better, cuts better and is built better and is half the wattage.


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Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 7:51 pm
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I currently own an SRRI and it replaced my HR Deville (which is pretty much the same thing as the HRDx). The two amps aren't even in the same zip code in terms of tone. My ownership of both overlapped by about a month so I was able to do some A/B comparison side by side. The SRRI is clear, cutting, and shimmering. It's the best tone I've ever heard out of a guitar amp. The HRDv sounded lifeless next to the SRRI - and the clean channel couldn't even come close to sounding as good. My wife was sitting on the sofa while I was playing around with both and she has no ear for tone but she even commented on how much better my "new amp" sounded. I left my HRDv alone for about 3 weeks while I waited for it to sell. You know how you sometimes pick up a piece of gear you haven't used in a while and realize it sounds better than you remember? Well, not in this case. It sounded even worse than I remembered which only convinced me that it was the right move to let the HRDv go.

The only thing the HRDx is going to do for you that the SRRI doesn't is have a drive channel. I've been able to substitute that with a Barber 1/2 Gainer and it gets the exact drive I want with the SRRI.

I didn't have the ridiculous reliability issues with my HRDv that some folks have, but I did have some problems. The first gig I took it to, one of the power tubes crapped out. When I replaced the tubes, one of the tube sockets gave me a lot of issues with trying to get good contact on the pins of the tube.

If you picked up the SRRI new for a $1000 that's a heck of a deal. Frankly, you would be a fool to let it go for an HRDx. This is one of those moves you would look back on later and kick yourself for doing.

And to answer your question, no, the SRRI isn't a versatile amp on its own. It sounds like a Super Reverb. It's not a modeling amp. No amount of dial turning is going to make it sound like something else. BUT, I've heard the exact same thing said about the HRD amps - they sound like Hot Rods and you're not going to get them to sound like much else. The SRRI IS the quintessential "Fender" tube amp sound.

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Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 8:49 am
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Thanks you guys very much....I decided the SRRI is here to stay. Just bought a keeley compressor (complete with free t shirt) and a maxon od808 and words cant describe what those two pedals did to an already beautiful sounding amp. Im absolutely floored! The compressor is the thing that really kills me. Talk about bringing out the absolute best in a good tube amp. These were my first actual analog pedals. Ive always used the built in overdrive in an amplifier. I jammed with my drummer yesterday and it feels like the amp is extremely balanced and present. Yea.... im thinking now that the switch would have been a bad regrettable move.


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Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 9:02 am
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I'm so glad for you. The Keeley pedals are awesome. Fender has never been known for it's distortion channels. The HRD series are about the worst I've ever heard.
Good luck! I don't think you'll ever regret your decision. There's a lot of great boosters that push the front end transparently too.

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Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 10:08 am
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you made the right choice.The HRDX sounds like a nice amp, but doesnt really hold up.Doesnt have alot of character or dynamics either.If you are looking for something smaller,check out the Deluxe Reverb too.I had a 75 super reverb that i sold to buy one.It weighed 85 lbs and I really didnt need the power anymore.I originally bought the drri to fill the spot that my blues jr took,but now its all I gig with.Couldnt be happier.


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Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 11:53 am
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Yea.. My SRRI has been an absolute tank of an amp so far. I just hope it lasts as long the non reissues. Its amazing how long those amps lasted.


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I think you made the right choice staying with the SRRI and the new pedals.

Keeley compressor is fantastic - have had one now for 2 years and it stays on all the time. Another great complement pedal to your OD808 is the Paul Cochrane Timmy pedal - extremely transparent, just more of your amp. Now on my pedalboard to stay and on all the time for a hint of grit. For less than $170, this pedal is a steal.

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yeah, listen to them.

the hotrod is a good amp
but the Super Reverb RI is def a BETTER built amp and for blues/funk SO much of a better amp

just play em side by side and bring your drummer so they can play while ur testing it out
maybe u just want more gain sometimes? use a OCD or something?


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yeah, listen to them.

the hotrod is a good amp
but the Super Reverb RI is def a BETTER built amp and for blues/funk SO much of a better amp

just play em side by side and bring your drummer so they can play while ur testing it out
maybe u just want more gain sometimes? use a OCD or something?

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sorry for the double &
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Im suprised at how many famous/professional guitarists use the HRd though. Any way... im curious to see what peoples opinions were on getting a good rock sound out my SRRI via certain pedals or w/e.
My main guitars are a american strat and a Epi ES-335.


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It depends. The Deville's and HRDlx's are big at equipment rental houses because they're cheap compared to higher quality amps and they're disposable. I know the HRDlx I had didn't cut the mix well and I've plugged in Deville's that had the same problem. A Deville I was using at a medium sized club had a hard time keeping up with a 18 watt combo with an 1x12 extension cab.
If you're touring, the pa system handles everything anyway so it really doesn't matter all that much. It just depends on the music you play and the stuff on your pedal board.


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ericmu17 wrote:
Thanks you guys very much....I decided the SRRI is here to stay. Just bought a keeley compressor (complete with free t shirt) and a maxon od808 and words cant describe what those two pedals did to an already beautiful sounding amp. Im absolutely floored! The compressor is the thing that really kills me. Talk about bringing out the absolute best in a good tube amp. These were my first actual analog pedals. Ive always used the built in overdrive in an amplifier. I jammed with my drummer yesterday and it feels like the amp is extremely balanced and present. Yea.... im thinking now that the switch would have been a bad regrettable move.
Great decision bro. You won't regret it.......... 8) Mike

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Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 11:11 pm
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63supro wrote:
It depends. The Deville's and HRDlx's are big at equipment rental houses because they're cheap compared to higher quality amps and they're disposable. I know the HRDlx I had didn't cut the mix well and I've plugged in Deville's that had the same problem. A Deville I was using at a medium sized club had a hard time keeping up with a 18 watt combo with an 1x12 extension cab.
If you're touring, the pa system handles everything anyway so it really doesn't matter all that much. It just depends on the music you play and the stuff on your pedal board.


Bingo. You see them a lot provided as backline rental equipment. Like Supro said, they're cheap and backline gear tends to get abused.

You also see them used by many indie-rock bands as well. Probably because they're inexpensive to acquire and sound decent plus give a lot of volume.

Don't get me wrong, the HRD's don't sound terrible - but sit one next to a SRRI and you hear the difference immediately.

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