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Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 2:48 pm
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Do you mean a 65 Deluxe Reverb? I'll build my own 5e3 Deluxe before I pay the inflated prices of the reissue that's for sure. :wink:


Yes sorry. Typo. I have a 65 Deluxe Reverb RI. Single speaker, 22 watt model. But the more I play my new Am Del Tele trough it, the more I like it. Seems to me that I have more total control with the Tele than I do with my Strat. The tone knob on this Tele has more range than the two on my Strat.

I looked into building something similar to the 57 Deluxe RI (tweed). I am an accomplished woodworker and welder with a good shop. I'm a little light in the electronics arena. I don't even own a soldering gun.

I did some research and I don't think I can build the same thing any cheaper. Certainly not when I account for my time. It would be a great project!


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Used DRRI's are now nudging the $600 threshold here (not sure how they do across the pond though).

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HI i have the 65 deluxe ri. and i have found if you change the driver pre amp tube. the one in V5 tube slot. this makes the amp brake up sooner more gain at a lower volume change 12at7 to 12ax7 the 12ax7 has about 30% more gain.Cheers.


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HI sorry i ment to say V6 pre amp tube for more gain.Cheers.


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I hear alot of complaints abot twins being too loud which is true. But I dont think that any other amp made currently can offer the huge full clean sound it delivers and for that you need the volume barely on.

Im not sure sure a small 20-50watt amp will offer that wide band of sound.

Please correct me if im wrong but this is how it sounds to me

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Big The Cat wrote:
I hear alot of complaints abot twins being too loud which is true. But I dont think that any other amp made currently can offer the huge full clean sound it delivers and for that you need the volume barely on.

Im not sure sure a small 20-50watt amp will offer that wide band of sound.

Please correct me if im wrong but this is how it sounds to me


There's plenty of 20-50 watters that offer a wide band of sounds. You just have to understand that the Twin gets a lot of it's clean from its sheer power and tube configuration. You can get a nice clean out of lots of amps just at a lower volume. The Super Reverb has a beautiful clean sound. That Ampeg J20 I tried a while back had a seriously clean sound till about 7 on the volume knob. The Egnater Rebel 30's clean channel is really impressive too. I couldn't get a natural distortion out of my 76 Twin until it hit ear splitting levels. My Twin was pretty much a one trick pony on its own with no pedals.

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I have a '68 Bassman head and although it lacks reverb it sounds just beautiful.I usually run it through an old CBS Leslie model 16 cab loaded with a JBL K-120 or a Marshall 1960 cab and for reverb use an Ibanez DM 1000.The amp isn't loud (50W) but the tone is deadly and the beauty is that the prices of these amps aren't through the roof yet,one of these could be a good alternative.

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63supro wrote:
There's plenty of 20-50 watters that offer a wide band of sounds. You just have to understand that the Twin gets a lot of it's clean from its sheer power and tube configuration. You can get a nice clean out of lots of amps just at a lower volume. The Super Reverb has a beautiful clean sound. That Ampeg J20 I tried a while back had a seriously clean sound till about 7 on the volume knob. The Egnater Rebel 30's clean channel is really impressive too. I couldn't get a natural distortion out of my 76 Twin until it hit ear splitting levels. My Twin was pretty much a one trick pony on its own with no pedals.


yeah, perhaps your right. Maybe its just me enjoying the "Live And Loud" feel.

And i dont think the twin is a one trick pony. works really good for most clean effectless styles like reggae, ska, alot of indie and jazz and many more. But for all those styles you could easily get a tiny amp.

i felt that the twin could get alot of bottom end and keep the high end sparkle.

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woolecox wrote:
Yellow Jackets P-YJ20-T-D Triode Duet adapters with JJ EL-84 Power tubes. This ran me $118. The Triodes reportedly cut the power in half and these tubes are supposed to squat much sooner than the factory GT 6V6's. They get warmer sooner.
http://www.yellowjacketstc.com
http://www.tubesandmore.com


Quoting myself above; I was hoping to be reporting to you the sound of these new tubes and triodes in my 65 Deluxe RI but Tubes and More botched the order and sent the wrong items. So another week and a half waiting on the right set (assuming they don't screw it up again).

Man! Is there no intelligent life left on this planet? Don't expect these people to have a clue about what your wanting to do with your amp/tubes. You better have the tech smarts and tell them exactly what you want. But they may screw it up anyway.

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That's a drag, Woolecox. I've been dealing with AES for over 25 yrs, the only problem I have with them is power tube matching. And that only started to happen about 5 yrs ago. I just get those tubes elsewhere. As far as the Twin Reverb goes: I used an old AB763 for years in a blues band, church, outdoor country music fests, and recording. With either a tele or strat, it always delivered the goods. IMO Those amps can be very versatile. If you can take on the weight, they'll take on most any venue and style, with a good deep sound. Art

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woolecox wrote:
I'm running a 65 Deluxe RI (22 watt 1x12, not the twin) with an EJ Strat and AD Tele. Guess what? It's still too loud for studio and bedroom work. Yeah you can turn it down and turn down the volume on your guitars but you just don't get that cool Fender sag until it gets way up there in db's.

In fact, it is too loud for most churches and small gigs. So after some research (and sending back a THD 8 ohm Hot Plate) I have decided to give this a try:

Yellow Jackets YJ20 Triode Duet adapters with JJ EL-84 Power tubes. This ran me $118. The Triodes reportedly cut the power in half and these tubes are supposed to squat much sooner than the factory GT 6V6's. They get warmer sooner.

Also, with these adapters, there is no need for a rocket scientist to re-bias your amp after switching tubes. I will let you you know how it sounds when I get them. All reviews are very positive. If you are interested, here are some links to start your research for your amp:

http://www.yellowjacketstc.com
http://www.tubesandmore.com


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woolecox wrote:
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63supro wrote:
Do you mean a 65 Deluxe Reverb? I'll build my own 5e3 Deluxe before I pay the inflated prices of the reissue that's for sure. :wink:


Yes sorry. Typo. I have a 65 Deluxe Reverb RI. Single speaker, 22 watt model. But the more I play my new Am Del Tele trough it, the more I like it. Seems to me that I have more total control with the Tele than I do with my Strat. The tone knob on this Tele has more range than the two on my Strat.

I looked into building something similar to the 57 Deluxe RI (tweed). I am an accomplished woodworker and welder with a good shop. I'm a little light in the electronics arena. I don't even own a soldering gun.

I did some research and I don't think I can build the same thing any cheaper. Certainly not when I account for my time. It would be a great project!


A welder and you don't even own a soldering gun?
That's rich!


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Twinhit wrote:
woolecox wrote:
Big The Cat wrote:
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Do you mean a 65 Deluxe Reverb? I'll build my own 5e3 Deluxe before I pay the inflated prices of the reissue that's for sure. :wink:


Yes sorry. Typo. I have a 65 Deluxe Reverb RI. Single speaker, 22 watt model. But the more I play my new Am Del Tele trough it, the more I like it. Seems to me that I have more total control with the Tele than I do with my Strat. The tone knob on this Tele has more range than the two on my Strat.

I looked into building something similar to the 57 Deluxe RI (tweed). I am an accomplished woodworker and welder with a good shop. I'm a little light in the electronics arena. I don't even own a soldering gun.

I did some research and I don't think I can build the same thing any cheaper. Certainly not when I account for my time. It would be a great project!


A welder and you don't even own a soldering gun?
That's rich!


Yeah man, can you believe it? I build big things out of steel and wood. I should study up on electronics. I have some vintage gear that needs repair, Thorens turn table, etc. (been around a while). But when I have time, I just want to bang out some righteous tones on my Tele and Strat trough this 65 Reverb.

Makes me happy :-)


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Rebelsoul wrote:
I agree with Voodoo Blues,I play my 40watt '66 Pro Reverb at home on about 2 1/2 with some od from a Tube screamer or similar pedal if I want tube distortion,or even the clean sound straight through and it sounds great....clean or not,take your pick....the neighbors like it too,because they can hear it outside,but not bad at all.
I'm the neighborhood guitar star. :wink: ....I guess I'm the only guitar player. :lol:


Blackface Pro Reverbs are great and underrated amps for lots of purposes. They have a nice deep sound, and have great reverb and the best tremolo I have ever heard. It's a great compromise to get a Twin-like vibe at a lower volume.


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I finally got the Yellow Jackets Triodes with JJ EL-84 tubes and installed them in my 65 DRRI. Sounded like crap! Couldn't put the original 6V6's back in there fast enough.

The Yellow Jackets seriously cut the power in the normal channel but did not work properly with the Reverb/Vibrato channel. And it just all sounded bad. When I hit the reverb/trem footswitch, the volume shot up to about normal. Unworkable.

May work for some amps but not a good choice for the 65 DRRI. Anyone want a set of YJ-20T's? I really love the sound of this amp and it gets better the louder its played.

I am really consider in this little 5 watt model for home use. Check it out, and check out the sound clips if you have decent speakers on your computer:

http://www.victoriaamp.com/amps.html?model=5112


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