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Post subject: Opinions on the Champ 600
Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 5:35 pm
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Just as the title says give me your opinions on the Champ 600


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Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 6:07 pm
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I love mine. Great for sitting in the house. I never have it past 12 o'clock, the speaker reacts badly to break-up. At 12 its perfect for me when I am writing and takes pedals well. The stock tubes were grim though.

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Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 12:37 am
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I played one at GC for about forty minutes and really enjoyed the thing. I would've bought one, but I spend more time playing my tricone now than I do the electric outfit I have. I think the Champion 600 has a great 50's Muddy Waters vibe about it. It would be great to have as a travel amp for practicing or even just playing around the house. You could get away with using it in acoustic settings quite easily. I think it's worth the money.

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Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 1:58 am
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I love my Champ 600. The first thing I did was sourse some NOS RCA 6v6 tubes for her. They make of world of difference on the tone. I always play mine dimed. I like some dirty in my tone. I use either (clean)12AT7 or 12AX7 (dirty) pre tubes. Ive heard many swap the speaker for that "vintage" tone. Im quite happy with mine as it is.


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Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 7:37 am
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I played one at GC. Liked it alot. sounded really cool with a good vintage tone.
I walked out with one in the box. Got home and plugged it in. Wow! What a disappointment. Sounded weak with almost no volume. As time progressed it seemed to improve a bit. The tone was good but less volume that I experienced in the store.
I am playing thru a Mexican Deluxe 60's Strat with 69 pups. Tried adjusting the pups which helped a bit.
Yesterday I picked up a set of JJ's. WOW!!!!!!! what a difference. three times the volume and the tone is outstanding.
Makes the Strat sound great and My 70's No Name Japanese Gibson 335 copy sounds amazing.

After all that. I love this amp after putting JJ;s in it.

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Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 8:01 am
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overall great lil' amp for at home or on the go like a fishfry or cookout

some things I found:

for 150$ - you can't beat it
sounds better with my strat w/single coils than my custom22 PRS w/ humb.

if you play with humbuckers, it sounds better with the LOW input

also I will sometimes use a towel folded 3 times across the front to dampen
the sound and it seems to give it a lil' saggish tone-especially if I'm using humbuckers

i like electro-harmonix tubes, so i switched the 12ax7 for one ( the 6v6 already was.)

i'm so in love with mine now, I am looking at the real one with a true 5f1 circuit with the 5Y3 rectifier - i bet it is awesome !
and the 5E3 circuit, the 57 deluxe

oh, and people, if you play hard rock DONT get this amp, duh?!
and don't hook a distortion pedal in front of it - this amp is made for clean to bluesy breakup, or trad. Rock n Roll

& great job to Fender, for producing a lil' bedroom tube amp at a killer price that does reflect that true touch dynamic of a good tube amp-
play soft u get clean, pick hard and get crunch !!!!

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Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 10:33 am
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They are what they are. It's not really a vintage tone it's a little more modern with slightly more gain. Fender modded it that way. The stock tubes and pretty bad and the speaker doesn't like to be pushed. It get pretty raspy when it's pushed. If you put this little amp through an extension cabinet it sounds pretty good. It's cheap fun.


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Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 5:57 pm
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stu987 wrote:
Yesterday I picked up a set of JJ's. WOW!!!!!!! what a difference. three times the volume and the tone is outstanding.
Makes the Strat sound great and My 70's No Name Japanese Gibson 335 copy sounds amazing.

After all that. I love this amp after putting JJ;s in it.


I wanted one for the portability but really didn't care for the sound. What JJs did you get? What's the deal with biasing?

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Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 4:09 am
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I picked one up a few months ago and love it. Purchased mine on e-bay with Electro Harmonix tubes (both 6v6gt, and 12ax7) and think it sounds great, have no problems with the speaker, and it's plenty loud enough for my loft. I use my Digitech RP250 in front of it for some reverb and a little overdrive at the lower volumes and love the tone.

I haven't used my Frontman or my Line6 once in the last few months.

Good Luck.


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Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 7:42 am
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shupe13 wrote:
What's the deal with biasing?


You don't bias the Champ 600 when replacing tubes. Preamp tubes don't need biasing. This is a single-ended (one power tube) amp so no bias needed when changing the 6V6. Plug 'em in and play.

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I replaced the stock tubes with Tung-Sol 12AX7 and 6V6GT tubes.
Installed a Sica/Jensen 6'' Keramik Magnet, 4 Ohm, 15 Watt speaker.
What a great little amp! Single-coil guitars respond better then humbucker
equipped guitars. I use a Fulltone Full-Drive 2 Mosfet, Electro-Harmonix Holy Grail Reverb and Carl Martin Classic Chorus with my Strat and AV ´52 Tele·


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Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 1:52 pm
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shupe13 wrote:
What's the deal with biasing?


You don't bias the Champ 600 when replacing tubes. Preamp tubes don't need biasing. This is a single-ended (one power tube) amp so no bias needed when changing the 6V6. Plug 'em in and play.


Thanks man. That makes it more enticing. :twisted:

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Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 7:40 pm
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Both tubes are Slovak JJ's. I changed that muffler called speaker cloth. Looks cool but is not very sound friendly. Bought some pretty open weave fabric from local fabric store. the color matches the dark vinyl on the sides.
I think it looks better. [/img]

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I was looking at this amp as well. My big concern is how it sounds with an overdrive (at low volume levels).
I played an old 70s champ and it only sounded nice clean, but It let through too many raspy highs to sound good with a stompbox overdrive in front of it.


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Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 7:08 pm
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My 74 Champ sounds smooth and buttery cranked and sounds great with pedals. The one you played may have needed some work.


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