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Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 2:35 pm
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budglo, check this out.

http://www.egnateramps.com/TweakerHead.html


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I cant wait to hear it when they come out .I love the sound of 6v6 tubes.Looks like alot of possibilities in tone,which is the egnater MO.


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Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 3:29 pm
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Bruce Egnater says he like to add fun and cool features that are usable instead of just gimmicks. I find this to be true. The Tweaker can use 6V6, 6L6, El34's. It's plug and play. His higher end amps are off the hook. The Tourmaster series are just nuts.

Here's the best Rebel demo I've found to date.

http://www.egnateramps.com/Video2.html


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63supro wrote:
Bruce Egnater says he like to add fun and cool features that are usable instead of just gimmicks. I find this to be true. The Tweaker can use 6V6, 6L6, El34's. It's plug and play. His higher end amps are off the hook. The Tourmaster series are just nuts.

Here's the best Rebel demo I've found to date.

http://www.egnateramps.com/Video2.html
That was cool.Some of the most innovative stuff on the market.I am really interested in trying the tweaker out when it comes out,but that renegade is crazy versatile.


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"I'm looking for something that I can use the Rebel pretty clean and stomp the boost for lead stuff."

supro, Have you considered the Barber LTD SR (Special Recipe)? It is a very mild overdrive that truly (I know everybody says it) does not color tone. It may be a good option for you.

http://www.barberelectronics.com/LTD_SR.html


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Looks as if this thread has been hijacked by those who don't look favorably on the Bandmaster/Deluxe VMs. I guess that's one way to impose one's opinion!

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Looks as if this thread has been hijacked by those who don't look favorably on the Bandmaster/Deluxe VMs. I guess that's one way to impose one's opinion!


Or avoid arguments lol. It's not the end of the world. It just happens sometimes. I don't see a whole lot of discussion on the VM here. :wink:

Oh guys, I tried the BYOC Confidence Boost and it's doing what I want. I just need to mount it in a pedal with a footswitch. It's very transparent and quiet too. I got lucky because sometimes the BYOC CB can be noisy. It has a pretty fair amount of boost.


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I'm having a problem with finding an OD pedal that I like with the Rebel 20. I even built and modified my own BYOC British Blues Overdrive and still like keep going back to the Rebel's gain knob. The pedal sounds great with the Twin and the SF Champ, but the Rebel's OD is sweeter, punchier and more refined. I'm experimenting with a BYOC Confidence Boost and I'll see what happens. Weird stuff.


You owe it to yourself to try the Paul Cochrane Timmy Pedal. Transparent beyond words, subtle grit or full blown overdrive. $179, get on a waiting list or see if a nearby dealer has one. With your amps, this is a pedal that gives you more "you." Favorite pedal on my board now!

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nedorama, thanks for the reply. Funny thing is, I really don't have a pedal board to speak of. Sometimes I use a Crybaby Wah and once in a while I use a Tube Screamer or for really classic stuff I use a huge old transistor driven Fender Fuzz Wah for fuzz only because the wah is really lame. I'm not much of an effect guy anymore.

I did build a modify a BYOC British Blues Overdrive that's a clone of the Marshall Blues Breaker Pedal. I love it with my Twin and Champ, but I like the OD from the Rebel a lot better. The BYOC Confidence Boost seems to do what I want for now. The BYOC pedals are really good sounding and easy to build.


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I like my pedals to be transparent as well.Used to have a blues driver, and although it is a decent pedal, it colors my tone too much.I also quit using my Rotovibe, because it just sucks the tone right out of my amps.Right now I use the ts9 ,but am looking at the OCD in the near future.


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nedorama, thanks for the reply. Funny thing is, I really don't have a pedal board to speak of. Sometimes I use a Crybaby Wah and once in a while I use a Tube Screamer or for really classic stuff I use a huge old transistor driven Fender Fuzz Wah for fuzz only because the wah is really lame. I'm not much of an effect guy anymore.

I did build a modify a BYOC British Blues Overdrive that's a clone of the Marshall Blues Breaker Pedal. I love it with my Twin and Champ, but I like the OD from the Rebel a lot better. The BYOC Confidence Boost seems to do what I want for now. The BYOC pedals are really good sounding and easy to build.


A few years ago, neither did I... but the band(s) I play in cover a wide range of covers, plus needed a quick and reliable way to setup/teardown. That and Gear Acquisition Syndrome...

a few years ago, only had a Boss TU2 tuner and the Barber Direct Drive. Worked well, but always felt like I was fumbling around getting ready changing batteries, ensuring the patch cables were OK, etc. I also owned at that time my old MXR Distortion II, an Ibanez Analog Delay (both bought in early 80's new), a Crybaby and an Ibanez chorus.

I knew I needed a delay sound to cover a lot of our covers and some originals, so started with the AD9. Worked for short slapback, but wasn't long enough for the songs - I had been using an old SPX90 back in the days of a rack setup. So I purchased a Boss DD6 delay.

At that point, I started looking for a pedalboard and some options. Found one with a case on ebay for $50, so the price was right. Quickly added a compressor (Keeley), my recent Tubescreamer, a Katana Boost and a Phase 90. Then added a Voodoo Labs Pedal Power 2 and a true-bypass A/B loop box, and was set until the Timmy...

So here's my setup now that's in a case; I can be setup or taken down in 2 minutes tops.

guitar to:
Crybaby - modded by Keeley for True bypass and a fasel inductor - takes an OK wah and makes it a lot better.
Boss TU2 tuner - may swap this out for the new TC tuner or similar; the Petersen strobe pedal won't fit
Keeley compressor, with controls at 9:00 and 12:00
Timmy pedal
Barber overdrive, when I need more crunch
Keeley Katana boost - solo either clean, dirt or crunch.
A/B true bypass loop box - keeps these pedals out of the signal path completely when they're not needed, which cuts down on noise considerably:
Loop A: TS9, modded by Keeley electronics - I like it a lot better than the stock version. Mine was a newer one, not the TS808 reissue, so again good bang for the buck. I use it if I want a more modern distortion/overdriven sound.
Ibanez AD9 - set to slapback
Loop B: MXR Phase 90, Ibanez SC10 Super Stereo Chorus (great analog old school chorus from '87), Boss DD6 Digital Delay

So yeah, it started with 2 pedals and grew quickly, but now having the tone flexibility without any tone suck or additional noise is great - won't be going back.

BYOC - great to hear as I've been looking at their stuff. The confidence booster and the Univox Super Fuzz clones are the kits I may try. I had a Super Fuzz when I first started out and foolishly sold it; the Guyatone TZ2 does a pretty convincing job of 1 of the 2 sounds of that fuzz for $50, but part of me wants to try and build it.

Budglo - something like this
http://www.robertkeeley.com/product.php?id=23

can help you keep your Rotovibe, but eliminate the tone suck when it's not on - it's a mini version of the 2 channel one I have on my pedalboard.

The OCD is tempting - I love the sound our other guitar player got with it even with a HR Deluxe. But I've promised myself not to get a bigger pedalboard, so something might have to go...

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nedorama,thanks for the recommend.I really like the tone of the rotovibe ,but when its not on its a total tone suck.I will give this a try.


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That's where I luck out. I play in a few Blues bands so I only have to be me which I love. I'll tell you what, that Egnater can get a ton of familiar 60's, 70's classic rock tones. It's really flexible. I used to run a lot of tone sucking pedals. I had an original Mutron III, Mutron Octave Divider, Ibanez Phase Shift, two EH LPB-1 power boosters cascaded, a Big Muff Pi, a EH Black Finger, EH Muff Fuzz, A Mutron Micro V, Maestro Frequency Booster and a couple different Ibanez distortion boxes as well as the Fender Fuzz Wah. I had a mile of wire LOL. We hardly ever played without some kind of distortion so we just adjusted the tone controls. We never knew about tone sucking. I would daisy chain my Bandmaster and a Sunn Scepter with a giant 4x12 cab and the giant 2x12 Bandmaster cab for big venues. Know wonder I have Tinnitus LOL.

I sold my 2 Mutron pedals to the same guy for over a grand on Ebay.


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RVM lead wrote:
Looks as if this thread has been hijacked by those who don't look favorably on the Bandmaster/Deluxe VMs. I guess that's one way to impose one's opinion!


No doubt the thread has gone off topic. As someone said, it happens, and not intentional. You seem to have an extreme assumption of others' motivations. FWIW, I have no problems with the VM's. Just joining in the conversation.


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neodorama,

I, too, thought that the Tim/Timmy would fit Supro's needs perfectly, and I was going to mention it, but you beat me to it. I had to laugh, because I haven't heard anything about it on this forum, but it's mentioned in every other thread over at TGP. I got on the list for a Tim about a month ago and the wait sucks. What really blows is that direct from Paul the prices are SO REASONABLE, I believe 129 for the Timmy and 169 for the Tim, but used prices start at 200 for the Timmy. I figured that I'm happy with my ODs for right now so I wouldn't mind waiting to get one from Paul. It's good to support the builder, too. He was really nice and helpful on the phone. Very cool guy.

By the way, I also have one of those Ibanez SC10 chorus pedals; what a great pedal. I snagged that and a CP10 compressor on ebay for $40. They both work great for what they do.

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