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Post subject: eminence Ragin Cajun vs Legend 105 vs stock spkr in Pro Jr
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 12:58 pm
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i know what you're thinking, "another dissapointed amp consumer, wants to mod his amp". well, that's not entirely true right now, because i dont know how i feel. truthfully, i'm still in the "evaluation stage" with my Pro Jr, and i've been trying to decide how i feel about the stock ceramic speaker. just for the heck of it, i've been hypothetically lining it up against other speakers. some people seem to like keeping it rather than changing it out. i wouldnt necessarily say its bad sounding, just wondering if i could do significantly better.
let me add that the amp is a few months old, so i suspect maybe it needs more break-in time. that is why i'm not in a big rush to change it.

two particular speakers i'd be interested in right now, were i to replace the stock spkr, are the eminence Ragin Cajun and the Legend 105. based on the eminence sound clips, these seem pretty good, but those clips only help so much.

i know that there is a cornucopia of PJ users who glow over the RC. believe it or not, though, i'm reading mixed reviews about it. right now, the main selling point for me with the RC is that it's 3 db more sensitive, and i wouldn't mind having more volume. sometimes i have to play un-miked. it seems to have a crisp and present midrange, lots of punch. good lows.
i hear that it may be too chunky for a 1x10 small combo, and some call it a tad sterile. some say it loses that fender'y character.

the legend 105 is only like 1 db higher than stock, so volume wont change much, but i've read its a great all-around speaker. the RC is definitely bigger sounding, but maybe the Legend has the character i want, which is basically to retain the fendery tones. i mean ok, i'm using a Pro Jr, which already sounds untraditional in the Fender world, but i like its sound and dont want to stray too far from it. iow, i dont want to get a speaker that will change its tonality too much.
i imagine the Legend's are practically stock, because they are listed as direct replacements. how much different could this be from the stock spkr provided with the amp?

i realize this is a hard issue to help with because i dont even know if i want to replace speaker yet. just looking for feedback and opinions regarding how you all compare the Legend 105 and the Ragin Cajun to the stock emi speaker. it will help my decision to hear what you say.

consider this a 3-option question. give me your opinion for any of the following: (recall the amp is Pro Jr, used at small-medium gigs)
Legend 105 vs Ragin Cajun
Legend 105 vs stock ceramic speaker
ragin cajun vs stock ceramic speaker


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Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 3:45 pm
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The Legend series I believe is pretty much a bottom of the line Eminence speaker. I also think it's a Legend 125 that's used in the HRDlx. Mine sounded okay till you pushed it. Then it got all farty sounding. The Ragin Cajun is a more efficient speaker. I played out of a Tweed Deluxe 5e3 clone that sounded great with the Ragin Cajun and actually cut the mix really well for a 12 watt amp and had great bass and treble response..


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Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 1:13 pm
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There are people who have to change pickups in every guitar they own no matter how good the original pickups may be. The same goes for speakers.

The Pro Jr. is sort of a one trick pony, so do you like the basic sound that is coming from the amp by itself? Changing the speaker is only going to take you so far.

When I got my Pro Jr. I had read about people changing speakers and getting incredible results, but like you I wanted to go through an evaluation period and let the stock speaker break in. Now that the amp's sonic characteristics are known the desire to change the speaker has gone away. That does not mean that there will never be another speaker tried in the amp. The expectations of a different speaker are lower now.


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Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 2:10 pm
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The stock HRDlx speaker is pretty bad. It gets all loose and flubby/farty when you push it. It has rerrible bass response and icepick highs. That's why Fender puts Jenson's and Celestion speakers in when you upgrade the Tolex for a "Special Edition" version.

It's faults really shine when you push the stock speaker. Sometimes changing the speaker can do wonders. I got rid of my HRDlx before I went that far. I changed the tubes and that was it. I won't mod a circuit of an amp to fix its flaws. I bought the HRDlx because it sounded good in the store, but it couldn't cut the mix in a band situation. It was pretty unreliable too. :cry:

Steve, you're right though, some people tend to fix things when they're not broken.


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