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Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 11:41 pm
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no, I said that if you don't use it for distortion, but as a boost on a clean tube amp. None of my Fenders have a distortion channel.

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oh cool.

what about the MT-2 Metal Zone, its got a eq


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bbrodie wrote:
A Twin is total overkill for small gigs. You'll never get it loud enough at a small gig to see any real tonal benefit. I know because I owned one for a little over 30 years and finally sold it. A DRRI will probably be all you'll ever need. 20 -30 watts max is fine for all but the largest gigs and even then you can mic it. Be kind to your spine. :D


Totally agree...the twin is overkill unless you play an arena. For me buying the twin reverb was a HUGE mistake. I'm not a gigging musician, I only play in my house, I always wanted a twin reverb, so I bought one. As mentioned, I cannot turn it up loud enought to get the full tonal range from this beast. And besides it wieghs 75LBS. OUCH!!
So my solution is, I'm going to sell it and get a Princeton or Champ.

Don't make the same mistake I did.

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The best distortion pedals are again..... Subjective.

To me, the best ones were made by DOD. The Overdrive/250 distortion preamp was amazing tonally.

Sadly they're hard to find.

I use an MXR Distortion+ with my twin into the normal channel but i bought a Line 6 M9 and i get alot of nice distortions out of it.

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code0312 wrote:
bbrodie wrote:
A Twin is total overkill for small gigs. You'll never get it loud enough at a small gig to see any real tonal benefit. I know because I owned one for a little over 30 years and finally sold it. A DRRI will probably be all you'll ever need. 20 -30 watts max is fine for all but the largest gigs and even then you can mic it. Be kind to your spine. :D


so is the Deluxe Reverb just a smaller (less watts) version of the Twin Reverb, i know its bound to have some differences but is it very similar?
Sort of.I think there is some differences in the tone stack, but also the Twin has a solid state rectifier whereas the DRRI has a tube rectifier.Plus there is the whole 6l6 vs the 6v6 tube difference.bbrodie is right you can use it for small to large gigs and extremely large if you mic it.I just bought one and I havent used my 59 bassman live since.


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budglo wrote:
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bbrodie wrote:
A Twin is total overkill for small gigs. You'll never get it loud enough at a small gig to see any real tonal benefit. I know because I owned one for a little over 30 years and finally sold it. A DRRI will probably be all you'll ever need. 20 -30 watts max is fine for all but the largest gigs and even then you can mic it. Be kind to your spine. :D


so is the Deluxe Reverb just a smaller (less watts) version of the Twin Reverb, i know its bound to have some differences but is it very similar?
Sort of.I think there is some differences in the tone stack, but also the Twin has a solid state rectifier whereas the DRRI has a tube rectifier.Plus there is the whole 6l6 vs the 6v6 tube difference.bbrodie is right you can use it for small to large gigs and extremely large if you mic it.I just bought one and I havent used my 59 bassman live since.


The Twin and DRRI are not even close in tone just by design.


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A really decent amp with superb clean tones is the Fender Princeton Chorus, it is however solid state and discontinued but can be bought for a very reasonable amount used.You didn't state whether you wanted tube or SS. This amp I believe has distortion also.Go on Harmony central and read some reviews to help you decide.It has 50 watts so I believe you could use it for small to medium venues.


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Just a word on the mid frequency control of the BF&SF amps without a dedicated potentiometer. These amps have a resistor(6800ohms) on the back of the bass control pot. This can be changed from a straight wire( no mid range) to a 25kohm resistor( maximum mid range), or any value in between that you prefer. I use a 12k on one amp and a 18k on the other amp. Did anyone suggest the '63 Vibroverb reissue? The Pro Reverb is also one of my favorite medium powered amps. Art

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I own a 65 ri deluxe reverb amp it has very clean beautiful sound to it till around 5 or 6 on the volume when the tubes start to break up (tube distortion) i live in a moble home with thick walls and, on 2 or 3 on volume it gets loud enough to where neghibor can hear it in his house next door. you should know also that, watts in tube power is quite a bit louder than solid state watts. being that tubes are voltage amplifiers where transistors are current amplifiers. anyway, i run a stratocaster and also an epiphone 335 dot thru the amp clean most times with compressor inline but i also use a ts7 tube screamer to get the tube breakup sound without having to crank up the amp. i also bought a boss distortion pedal but it gets a bit too much distortion for what i play. the tube screamer on the other hand will give me from natural tube distortion to full blown screaming distortion. good luck in your choice of amp..fenders are the top of the line.

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mats54 wrote:
A really decent amp with superb clean tones is the Fender Princeton Chorus.


At the local shop near where i live there is an amp called Fender Princeton Recording Amp. Is that like the Princeton but with a recording feature?

Heres a link to it: http://www.musoscorner.com.au/site/inde ... code=15242

The unfortunate thing is that the Deluxe Reverb is not sold at my local shop.


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No the princeton recording amp is an all tube professional recording amp, and the chorus is a solid state amp with a price difference of about 1200. dollars,thats less not more.Have you looked into the Frontman series, a65R or 212R? If money is not an issue go with a Twin Reverb they will blow the windows out of your house before it gets dirty.


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I'm probably just gunna get a Twin Reverb with a TS9DX Turbo Tube Screamer


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I have a TS-9DX Turbo Tube Screamer. It's not a bad pedal, but the other modes are really not usable. I do, however, use one of the other modes to boost my distortion pedal with tons of bass and volume to get some really high gain tones. For $100, it's not too bad, but there's much better pedals out there.

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code0312 wrote:
I'm probably just gunna get a Twin Reverb with a TS9DX Turbo Tube Screamer


If you're really going to get a Twin, which multiple people have said here is overkill for what you're looking for, then you need to get this or plan to pay for back surgery:

http://www.handtrucks.com/hand-trucks/2 ... dtruck.cfm

Those tiny casters on the Twin are good for absolutely nothing - too small to roll over anything, including pavement going into a gig. I'm not kidding - that sucker is heavy.

Unless you're out on tour, no one needs a Twin Reverb level of power. While you can pull 2 of the tubes for less, why go with a TR in the first place? Great alternatives all suggested here:
- Deluxe Reverb
- Princeton Reverb
- Pro Reverb

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