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I played a SS today at GC and just did not like the OD channel. If you wanted "hi gain" (at least Fender's definition of it) it was OK, but it could not go in the other direction (i.e. low gain, bluesy gain etc). The EFX loop was wonderful. The cleans were quite good too. My only gripe about them is the differences in loudness - made foot switching them ridiculous. However, I suspect that you might get better results with a Strat or Tele (I was using my Les Paul). IMHO great concept that was not well-implemented. I'll stick with Silver face Bandmaster, a '94 Twin amp or a Protube series Pro Reverb.

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To go in the other direction (i.e. low gain, bluesy gain etc), you simply need to swap the 12AX7 from position V3 (used for the Burn channel) to something like JAN-Philips 5751 (about 70% of gain of a 12AX7).


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Thanks for the idea Steve! Has anyone been able to get around the volume difference between the Vibro/Bassman channel (i.e. foot-switching them)? Thanks!

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mdortona wrote:
Thanks for the idea Steve! Has anyone been able to get around the volume difference between the Vibro/Bassman channel (i.e. foot-switching them)? Thanks!

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I havent really had a problem with the volume difference. I have at times used the "effect loop jump" to balance out between the channels so i set the effect loop to boost the volume a little and then when i switch to Vibro. I simply hit the boost. Like i said. I dont really do that often cus i dont have a problem with the volume difference...

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That's a good idea Vince. I'll have to swing by GC and give it a try.

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mdortona wrote:
That's a good idea Vince. I'll have to swing by GC and give it a try.

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Really my only gripe with the supersonic is that when you really get the Bassman Channel Going you end up with tube rattle (on the combo version) i actually cut mine down into a head. It turned out to be awesome because now i have a SS head with no tube rattle and also it still has the reverb.

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mdortona wrote:
Thanks for the idea Steve! Has anyone been able to get around the volume difference between the Vibro/Bassman channel (i.e. foot-switching them)? Thanks!

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I don't really think Fender intended for the Vintage channel to be "switchable" between the two voicings while playing. Its more like you have just two channels: a Normal channel (Vintage, with a choice of 2 voicings), and then a Boost channel (Burn), and you can switch between those two.

The volume and EQ differences between the Vibrolux and Bassman voicings are just too great. I cant believe they would have designed it in such a way, if the two were meant to be switchable while you were playing. I normally use the Vibrolux for sparkly clean and then switch to the Burn for overdrive, and use the FX Loop as a boost for solos. Works great.

The SS does sound better with Fender guitars for sure.


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gecko_tx wrote:
mdortona wrote:
Thanks for the idea Steve! Has anyone been able to get around the volume difference between the Vibro/Bassman channel (i.e. foot-switching them)? Thanks!

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I don't really think Fender intended for the Vintage channel to be "switchable" between the two voicings while playing. Its more like you have just two channels: a Normal channel (Vintage, with a choice of 2 voicings), and then a Boost channel (Burn), and you can switch between those two.


My thoughts exactly.

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vjcor wrote:
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mdortona wrote:
Thanks for the idea Steve! Has anyone been able to get around the volume difference between the Vibro/Bassman channel (i.e. foot-switching them)? Thanks!

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I don't really think Fender intended for the Vintage channel to be "switchable" between the two voicings while playing. Its more like you have just two channels: a Normal channel (Vintage, with a choice of 2 voicings), and then a Boost channel (Burn), and you can switch between those two.


My thoughts exactly.


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That's exactly correct and I can't honestly see the need to ever switch from Vibrolux to Bassman MID SONG and that would be the only reason to have an issue with the volume disparity...

and as far as getting that "slightly dirty" tube driven fender tone... that's what a TS9 or similar overdrive pedal is for...
Throw that in the mix on the bassman side (or vibro if that is your flavor) and you'll be grinning from ear to ear...

I use a TC Electronic Nova Drive pedal (in the loop of my G-system) with the clean channel to give it some nice break up without going high gain.

With that combination, this amp really can cover EVERY sonic base that you could possibly need for a gig at a VERY competitive price!

DO NOT go by what you are hearing at the guitar shop... these amps are completely different monsters with a few upgraded tubes, a little time for speaker "break in" and a little tweaking to your ear. The more I play mine the more I like it... In fact, I like it so much I just bought another one (the head) and a 4-12" cabinet to go with it that I will probably make my "church rig" and then bring the combo home to use on around town gigs...


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I recently bought a Supersonic, I've been using an Orange Rockerverb and now that I'm playing in a more classic rock group with material that ranges from Cream to Steely Dan, I find the Supersonic is a more versatile amplifier. I also noticed that when I first hooked it up, it was a little brittle. However, after it got heated up a bit, the sound became really warm and mellow. It just sounds outrageous!


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The SS Head is a very good and versatile amplifier. I love mine, although a little too powerful at times. I have the Blonde 60th Anniversary Edition and absolutely love it. However, if you get the head it does NOT come with reverb tank. I added the Boss FRV-1 pedal and all is vintage Fender sounding. The FRV-1 is a vintage '65 reverb based on Fender and licensed and authorized by them to even have the matching script logo on it. Both units are worth the money. Also remember that it takes a good speaker box to sound it's best! If you concern is not carrying your heavy DeVille... the SS half-stack probably ways as much or more as the SS 2-12 cab is closed back and heavier speakers than the DeVIlle. Tone wise it kicks the DeVille's but... I know because that's what I traded for my SS half-stack... Mins was USA made and I won't trade again until I go Dr. Z!

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Are the tubes on the SS chassis mounted or PCB mounted like the HRD? THanks!

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They appear to be chassis mounted. They are very easy to get to and receptacles are on the chassis. The pre amp tubes have a tin sleeve for locking and the output tubes have a plastic receptacle with a metal wing locking mechanism.


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