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Post subject: Fender blues deville
Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2009 3:01 pm
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I recently got a fender blues deville from my cousin I checked it and everthing is good on it. QA says it was made in 1995, Ive never owned anything like this from fender except for my first amp. Can someone tell me if this is the original or a re-issue, and its value.


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Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 6:27 pm
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If it's 95 then it was made in USA, not Mexico as they are now.
Still, there's not much real difference between US and Mexi production line amps, so it's probably worth around 60% of the new price - if it's in excellent condition.


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Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 3:29 pm
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ok so does anyone know where i can get parts for it


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Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 4:15 pm
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which parts do you need?
If you're after amp fittings, handles, corners, knobs, jewel light, footswitch... that kinda stuff you can get from Fender dealers, the correct part for your amp. But if you need internal electronic parts you need to find your local tube amp guru - or if you plan to do it yourself there's heaps of online stores like Torres etc where you can get your Mercury transformers etc etc etc

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Post subject: blues deville 212
Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 6:28 pm
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i saw your website. love your favorite artist list, almost exactly like mine. you seem to know about the blues deville 212. mine are '94's, 1 in great shape inside and out the other is great inside and a little beaten up outside [not bad though].
i bought them 13 years ago, dodnt rember what i paid. what do you think they would go for new or better yet what would be a good asking price for each?
i see your from Oz so let me know which currency your talking in.
thanks for your help.


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Ya i need a pot for it. The bad thing is there isn't anybody who deals with tubes around here and the nearest fender dealer is 2 to 3 hours away. I cant find any places online that carry it. Do u know any websites that im missing


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Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 12:47 am
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iandolor -

thanks man, think about the second hand value of your amps in terms of a percentage. They're still being made, so they aint rare, BUT yours are made in the USA which usually means better qual - people don't seem to be paying more for the USA made ones, but they do hold their value OK. Typically if they're in great condition, not too banged up and everything works, you can get 60-70% of the new price for them. But if they're scuffed and have a scratchy pot or something then start sliding down the scale. That tends to be a typical range for second hand amps that don't fit the 'vintage' or 'boutique' category. But really, they're worth as much as you can convince someone to pay for them, given the area you find yourself in and how relatively hard pressed people might or might not be financially round there etc. I can't say...

Flopflips 15 -

OK, if it just needs a pot then any decent electronics guy could change that for you. You can download the schematic for your amp so they have all the technical info to use the correct replacement pot. They can get a pot from Radio Shack for less than 2 bucks, seriously... they just have to replace the dud one. Not a big job.
Look on the Fender site under Support>Technical Specs>Amplifier Schematics and you can download your amp diagram for free. Then say a big thank you to Fender, print it out, take your amp to any old electronics fixer guy person and say "this one that says 'gain' don't work, can you replace it?" easy easy. Shouldn't cost much at all neitherer! If you wanna make sure a good quality part goes in, not a $@!&#* replacement that is built to fail asap then you need to go the extra step of identifying what the value of the pot is, whether it's audio or linear, and getting one in yourself....

The best sites I know with quality replacement parts are
http://www.torresengineering.com
http://angela.com

I hope that gives you some good pointers, this stuff seems difficult til you've done it - then it's amazing how easy it really is.

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I'd steer clear of Torresengineering. I know a lot more people who had problems with their stuff than not. They also seem to have a problem backing what they sell.

You can try
http://www.allparts.com/

http://www.tubesandmore.com/

They are pretty much the standard for replacement parts.


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mouser.com has tons of stuff too

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Hollis Prince wrote:
mouser.com has tons of stuff too

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Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 5:28 pm
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I hadn't heard that about Torres but thanks 63Supro.
+1 on Allparts.

You know, it just occurred to me - if it's a pot maybe you need to try the good old magic of Amp Repair Trick Number 1. :)

Yessir it's...... Contact Spray. If you don't have any then go get a can from Radio Shack or similar store, you want electrical contact cleaner, or whatever it's called this year... in a spray can. You don't want any kind of lubricant, nuh huh.

If you're confident in unplugging your amp from the wall, carefully undoing the screws holding the amp chassis in the cabinet and pulling it out - making sure to not bump the tubes on anything etc and to NOT TOUCH ANYTHING THAT COULD KILL YOU (I'm gonna keep mentioning that one) etc etc Basically get it to the point where you can eyeball the pot that's giving you grief. I'm pretty sure they're mounted onto the PCB in your amp, so the side facing down towards the circuit board has an opening in the round casing, that shows the resistor gizzards :) Get the little straw onto your contact spray can nozzle and stick it as close to that opening as you can and then drown the insides of that sucker with spray, make sure it goes inside. Then you turn the pot full rotation around and back, again and again, 50 to 100 times - and put the amp back together. While you're in there tho, might as well spray them all if you can get to them. Spray, turn, spray turn.... More often than not this fixes a pot which has become crackly, cutting in and out or is making noise. If the pot is really noisy do it twice, turning it uses the internal contacts of the pot trace to scrub itself clean, with the contact spray acting as the cleaning agent.... it's like miracle dishwashing liquid!

So, uh, that's another budget DIY option to consider before you pay a tech. It seriously brought my 1975 Ampeg V4 back from the dead after it had been in storage for a few years in a humid environment and developed some terrible noises. Also the volume pot would suddenly cut out and put the amp on full volume - and I'd have my head, house and whole suburb blasted by 120 glorious tube watts of Ampeg clear and punchy 1970s stadium band volume..... which is terrifying, exhilarating and ultimately bad for your health... anyway, contact spray fixed that.

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nickbeatnik,
thanks for the info. you know i have been looking at the fender website and i only see the 410 still being made. thik there is a big price difference between 410 and 212?


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iandolor wrote:
nickbeatnik,
thanks for the info. you know i have been looking at the fender website and i only see the 410 still being made. thik there is a big price difference between 410 and 212?


If you look at the Hot Rod series amps the 212 and the 410 both get listed as the same price.... Musician's Friend has them at $899 right now. So it's reasonable to think the market expects the Blues Deluxe to be worth the same in either of those speaker configurations, 212 or 410.

I can find new Blues Deluxe series amps in the single 12 and the 410 combos. The list is $750 for 112 and $999 for 410 right now, a little more bread than the Hot Rod series amps. So I figure the 212 would be $999 new if it was there. What that means for the used price is all up to the people looking to buy really, but I doubt anyone would want to pay more than $650-ish for an old one.

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nickbeatnic,
thanks again. the deville and deluxe are different series but i think your right, no price difference between speaker configs.
rob.


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Well i got it fixed and it sounds good. It has a great bright tone. Im kinda suprised, no distortion tho only problem i can find to comlpain about. But other than that i like it. Any suggestions on distortion pedals for this thing?


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