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Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2009 1:10 pm
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what is the difference between these two amps? (besides the twin being louder) Does the supersonic compare to any of the clean tones out of these two amps?


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Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2009 1:23 pm
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The Twin is louder, larger, heavier and cleaner than a DRRI. Not that there's anything wrong with a DRRI either.


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Its the same amp just with less tubes in it, so it breaks up quicker and doesent give you as much clean headroom as the twin does.

The supersonic is more of a modeling amp, since it mimics its cleans settings off the vibrolux's and the bassmans. And im sure that its drive channel is copied off some modern amp since its tells us its, "Gives us that modern distortion sound."

Mind you theres quite alot of people who use the supersonics.

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Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2009 2:25 pm
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Its the same amp just with less tubes in it, so it breaks up quicker and doesent give you as much clean headroom as the twin does.

The supersonic is more of a modeling amp, since it mimics its cleans settings off the vibrolux's and the bassmans. And im sure that its drive channel is copied off some modern amp since its tells us its, "Gives us that modern distortion sound."

Mind you theres quite alot of people who use the supersonics.


The Twins way different than the DRRI, not the same at all. It's 6L6 driven and the DRRI is 6V6 driven. The tone from a good 6V6 power tube will bloom. The DRRI also has a tube rectifier so you get more compression and sag when you push it, that's why it breaks up earlier, not because it has less tubes. The Twin has a solid state rectifier which makes it cleaner and tighter. The Super Sonic isn't really a modeling amp. It all tube driven with a gain channel. It has no solid state effects or amp models built into it. It just take a couple of amp designs and combines them into one amp.


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Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2009 5:59 pm
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Each of the amps you mentioned are all excellent and have their own unique qualities. For me the DRRI is the most versitile package in that you get that great blackface sound, very reliable and best of all easiest to move around. As others have said the Twin has great cleans, plenty of headroom but is very heavy. Thats probably why there are a couple of used ones in every Guitar Center you go in. While others may disagree I really like the tone and options on the SuperSonic, a well engineered amp and the retro blond tolex adds a nice touch.


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Though I'm not a professional, I would highly recommend the DRRI given that it takes pedals fairly well, get's excellent, loud clean, loud enough to play with a drummer, yet sounds decent at low volumes. The Twin sounds great but is heavy, expensive and way too loud. The Supersonic sounds great, but is too loud for practice at home, at least for my taste. By the time I've turned it up loud enough for either of the clean channels to open up and sound good, it's loud enough to play with a band. Still, I think if I played professionally and didn't need the tremolo, I probably would find myself wanting a Supersonic. So, yeah, DRRI all the way, but then I'm biased as that's what I currently play through.

Whatever's the case, you should always play through an amp with your guitar (or one like it) before buying the amp to make sure it'll give you the sounds you want.

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The Twin has a SS rectifier? I didn't know that.

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Yep, sure does. I looked it up.

In my previous post, in meant to say SS rectifier. I must have accidently hit the "a" before the SS. :roll: :D

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Yep, sure does. I looked it up.

In my previous post, in meant to say SS rectifier. I must have accidently hit the "a" before the SS. :roll: :D


Yep. For a long time. I don't think they've had a tube rectifier since they went Blackface. The Blackface amps went for real clean and real tight. Tube rectifiers sag when you hit them hard. Not everyone like the sag. I know a few guys that have modded their old Fender amps and hooked up a switchable SS rectifier. You then have the best of both worlds.


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The Twins way different than the DRRI, not the same at all. It's 6L6 driven and the DRRI is 6V6 driven. The tone from a good 6V6 power tube will bloom. The DRRI also has a tube rectifier so you get more compression and sag when you push it, that's why it breaks up earlier, not because it has less tubes. The Twin has a solid state rectifier which makes it cleaner and tighter. The Super Sonic isn't really a modeling amp. It all tube driven with a gain channel. It has no solid state effects or amp models built into it. It just take a couple of amp designs and combines them into one amp.


My bad... But my a, "Tube modeling amp" i meant like a tube amp modeling another tube amp.

And yeah, im pretty sure every amp has a rectifier. Thats why ive always said that the mesa rectifier series its not really too different from another high gain amplifier.

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Mesa/Boogies Dual Rectifiers have 2 switchable rectifiers, one tube, one solid state. The Triple Rec's have 3: one solid state, one tube, or 2 rectifier tubes to run 6 6L6's at a whopping 150 watts! The Mesa Triple Rec's are brutal!

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Hollis Prince wrote:
Mesa/Boogies Dual Rectifiers have 2 switchable rectifiers, one tube, one solid state. The Triple Rec's have 3: one solid state, one tube, or 2 rectifier tubes to run 6 6L6's at a whopping 150 watts! The Mesa Triple Rec's are brutal!


They are insanely loud, but if you ever get a chance to get one really cooking, it has a fantastic sound. Just please PLEEEASSEEE don't scoop the mids out! Everyone does that and for the life of me i hate it. Thats where all the sound is. You will loose your tone in the mix everytime.

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vjcor wrote:
Hollis Prince wrote:
Mesa/Boogies Dual Rectifiers have 2 switchable rectifiers, one tube, one solid state. The Triple Rec's have 3: one solid state, one tube, or 2 rectifier tubes to run 6 6L6's at a whopping 150 watts! The Mesa Triple Rec's are brutal!


They are insanely loud, but if you ever get a chance to get one really cooking, it has a fantastic sound. Just please PLEEEASSEEE don't scoop the mids out! Everyone does that and for the life of me i hate it. Thats where all the sound is. You will loose your tone in the mix everytime.



+1 It amazes me how many people do that. You need the mids to cut the mix. Scooped mids sound like arse anyway.


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150 watts isnt loud, compare it to a diezel Herburt which is a huge 200 watt.

Mind you, look at bugera's newest bass amp called, "The Nuke" which is at an insane 3600 watts!

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