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Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 5:58 am
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I did it! With the positive recommendations I've seen here I decided I would trade my Princeton Reverb for a Deluxe Reverb. The DRRI is the model I had my eye on originally but I opted for the lower watt rating of the Princeton. The comments here suggested that the DRRI sounded great at bedroom levels too so I decided to go for the more flexible amp.

No problem with the exchange at Guitar Center. I had to take another floor model which seemed okay - no damage to the cabinet, dials, etc., and the amp sounded great during my brief test. When I got it home, one of the things I noticed about the DRRI was the depth of the reverb. The Princeton didn't seem to get nearly as much effect. I turned the DRRI reverb dial up to 6 and the sound was almost dripping wet. Surf baby!

The bad news: the vibrato doesn't seem to work. I turned the speed and intensity dials way up and I couldn't hear any appreciable tremolo, unlike on the PRRI. I don't know how the vibrato channel works. Is it possible I have a loose, or a bad tube? The GC guys will exchange this amp when they get a new one but if there's something easy to check and/or fix it would save me the hassle - the DRRI is much heavier to lug around than the PRRI!

Thanks for all the input about these amps. I think I'll be happy with this amp for a long time.
Make sure the footswitch is plugged in properly and engaged.


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Aha! I haven't plugged in the footswitch since I got it home. I'll try that as soon as I can.

Thanks budglo!

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Congrats! You need the footswitch for the vobrato to work.


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budglo, 63supro - Thanks guys, you hit the nail on the head. Plugged in the foot switch and all is well. The reverb is WAY better than the Princeton's was (is this a function of the reverb tank length or was my Princeton just a bad example?) and the vibrato sounds great. Not that I use either of them that much but it's great to have all the options.

My Strat is in the shop so I've been playing my Tele through the DRRI. It's really nice...

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Agreed, however Supro and I pointed out that if he would ever want to gig , the prri would probably come up short and he might want to consider the drri as a similar amp(not identical).Solid advice if you ask me.It isnt a weewee contest between the two amps , but merely making a suggestion that maybe he might want to think a little further ahead.


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I don't understand the problem. Regardless of it's intended use, the DRRI for just a little more cash is a way better value. A few more watts, giggable, bigger speaker and two channels with separate EQ in case you may want to jam with a friend. I always found the PRRI way overpriced.

The reverb may sound richer because of the bigger speaker.


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63supro wrote:
I don't understand the problem. Regardless of it's intended use, the DRRI for just a little more cash is a way better value. A few more watts, giggable, bigger speaker and two channels with separate EQ in case you may want to jam with a friend. I always found the PRRI way overpriced.

The reverb may sound richer because of the bigger speaker.
Thank you!I didnt see the problem either.I wished someone would have given me advice like that about my first tube amp.The drri is very home friendly to play thru.Nothing worse than taking it out and finding out it just doesnt have enough power, especially if miking it isnt an option.


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budglo wrote:
63supro wrote:
I don't understand the problem. Regardless of it's intended use, the DRRI for just a little more cash is a way better value. A few more watts, giggable, bigger speaker and two channels with separate EQ in case you may want to jam with a friend. I always found the PRRI way overpriced.

The reverb may sound richer because of the bigger speaker.
Thank you!I didnt see the problem either.I wished someone would have given me advice like that about my first tube amp.The drri is very home friendly to play thru.Nothing worse than taking it out and finding out it just doesnt have enough power, especially if miking it isnt an option.


budglo, No problem my friend!
I only recommend things (or not} that I have had personal experience with. If I don't I just keep my mouth shut. I have used many, many different amps in many different scenarios in my 40 years as a musician and use that as a reference point, not just price. Versatility and reliability are important to me and to steer someone into a situation that for any number of reasons is just silly especially with two pieces of equipment are so close in price.

If someone doesn't like my advice, don't take it and move on. It doesn't bother me in the least. At least I didn't try to steer the OP from Fender. :D


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I was suprised how little a difference in price the 2 are.I certainly havent had nearly as many amps as you , or been playing for anywhere near as you(just 12 ), but I know most people start out in their bedroom and eventually with friends, then maybe gigging.i know most people these days cant afford an amp for every situation either, so to me its best to cover as much ground with as few dollars as possible.


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billco wrote:

Getting back to the topic, PRRI and DRRI are totally different amps. I think many people sometimes look at the price difference between the two with a myopic view and lean towards the DRRI as being a better value rather than following their ears and/or its intended use. The PRRI is not a baby DRRI as many seem to be inclined to think.

In summary, neither the PRRI nor DRRI replaces one another. Both have earned bragging rights to being the most common recorded amp Fender has ever designed. That being said, as for a home only amp, which is what the OP’s inquiry was based on, and thus my original response, the differences between the two amps makes a PRRI a better fit for home use, not necessarily a better amp.


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i am curious, apart from the size, wattage, channel differences what makes the PRRI and DRRI tonally different from each other?

I guess i have thought of them as basically delivering the same tonal qualities in different sized and featured packages. this theory does not seem correct so I'd love to be enlightened.

thanks!


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The DRRI is a bit fuller due to the 12" speaker and the DRRI also has more clean headroom due to the 7 or so more watts it has. This sets them pretty much apart tonally.


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