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eladin wrote:
Thank you very very much, guys!
I am afraid I will give up the idea to put 2x10 inside the HRD.

My band mate is going to give me a 12' Clestion Greenback, just to test with the HRD. I know it is only 25w... but I will use the 2nd input, which lows de output 3db, which I think it reduces the amp half the wattage (20w.). Right?

thanks.


You'll kill the Greenback in nothing flat. The HRDlx is running close to full tilt before you hit 5 on the volume knob. The second input does not change the wattage.


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Take Supro's advise. He has the experience with this amp. ART

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Ha Ha!! A lot of bad experience with the HRDlx. :?


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63supro wrote:
eladin wrote:
Thank you very very much, guys!
I am afraid I will give up the idea to put 2x10 inside the HRD.

My band mate is going to give me a 12' Clestion Greenback, just to test with the HRD. I know it is only 25w... but I will use the 2nd input, which lows de output 3db, which I think it reduces the amp half the wattage (20w.). Right?

thanks.


You'll kill the Greenback in nothing flat. The HRDlx is running close to full tilt before you hit 5 on the volume knob. The second input does not change the wattage.


wooowww! thanks a lot! :)
Still searching speaker... :roll:


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eladin wrote:
63supro wrote:
eladin wrote:
Thank you very very much, guys!
I am afraid I will give up the idea to put 2x10 inside the HRD.

My band mate is going to give me a 12' Clestion Greenback, just to test with the HRD. I know it is only 25w... but I will use the 2nd input, which lows de output 3db, which I think it reduces the amp half the wattage (20w.). Right?

thanks.


You'll kill the Greenback in nothing flat. The HRDlx is running close to full tilt before you hit 5 on the volume knob. The second input does not change the wattage.


wooowww! thanks a lot! :)
Still searching speaker... :roll:


Eminence Texas Heat are nice. Speakers are really subjective though. Look at the specs for Eminence, Celestion, Jenson, JBl. My Egnater Rebel 20 is loaded with a Celestion Elite 80 that's pretty sweet sounding.


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63supro wrote:
eladin wrote:
63supro wrote:
eladin wrote:
Thank you very very much, guys!
I am afraid I will give up the idea to put 2x10 inside the HRD.

My band mate is going to give me a 12' Clestion Greenback, just to test with the HRD. I know it is only 25w... but I will use the 2nd input, which lows de output 3db, which I think it reduces the amp half the wattage (20w.). Right?

thanks.


You'll kill the Greenback in nothing flat. The HRDlx is running close to full tilt before you hit 5 on the volume knob. The second input does not change the wattage.


wooowww! thanks a lot! :)
Still searching speaker... :roll:


Eminence Texas Heat are nice. Speakers are really subjective though. Look at the specs for Eminence, Celestion, Jenson, JBl. My Egnater Rebel 20 is loaded with a Celestion Elite 80 that's pretty sweet sounding.


Thanks! What about a Governor?


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Never tried one.


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I still have the stock speaker in my Blues Deluxe from the mid '90s. I've tried a few different ones in it. The speaker I've always wanted to try and never did was the Cannibus Rex. The Eminence it shipped with does have a vintage sound in my opinion. That's why it's still in there.


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63supro wrote:
Ha Ha!! A lot of bad experience with the HRDlx. :?


hi again, do you think that running a 25w. Greenback into the HRD would be actually safe if volume setting in normal channel is set at 3 max. (from 1 to 12) in the first input? Or it depends on the guitar, pickups, pedals..., I mean... input?
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Eladin, you're bound and determined to try that speaker aren't ya? I don't blame you, but without measuring the output, I can't say for sure it is safe. The volume control, although set to 25% of it's total sweep, it is not operating the amp at 25% of it's total output. Like Supro said, the amp at"5"will fry the Greenback. That's because at "5" the amp may be producing 40watts. The amps output is measured at full power before distortion(this is the power amp section only). After power amp distotion sets in all bets are off because the output transformer is operating out side it's design specs and the wattage to the speaker can rise. This can cause the speaker to overheat and short out, thus causing the output transformer to try to operate into a dead short and burning itself out. So if you run the Greenback too hard, you can see the possible problem. Not to say you're running the power section into distortion, but an overheated speaker can do some damage. Now if you could run 6V6 power tubes in that amp, then the Greenback might be just the speaker. Guess I've rambled on enough. Be careful! ART

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aclempoppi wrote:
Eladin, you're bound and determined to try that speaker aren't ya? I don't blame you, but without measuring the output, I can't say for sure it is safe. The volume control, although set to 25% of it's total sweep, it is not operating the amp at 25% of it's total output. Like Supro said, the amp at"5"will fry the Greenback. That's because at "5" the amp may be producing 40watts. The amps output is measured at full power before distortion(this is the power amp section only). After power amp distotion sets in all bets are off because the output transformer is operating out side it's design specs and the wattage to the speaker can rise. This can cause the speaker to overheat and short out, thus causing the output transformer to try to operate into a dead short and burning itself out. So if you run the Greenback too hard, you can see the possible problem. Not to say you're running the power section into distortion, but an overheated speaker can do some damage. Now if you could run 6V6 power tubes in that amp, then the Greenback might be just the speaker. Guess I've rambled on enough. Be careful! ART


Just updating this topic:
I finally got an alnico Jensen P12Q (40w. 8 ohm). These are my impressions: it is a very vintage sounding speaker. You know, classic alnico clean tones (its cleans are not hi-fi, which it is not a bad thing, depending of the use.). It is very controlable dinamically. With tube distortion, sounds wonderfull, but still a little bit treble (not harsh), but I think it is the nature of that speaker.
My HRD with the P12Q sounds more like a 50´s tweed (Twin Amp, or 57 Deluxe) than a Blackface (Twin Reverb), which I do not no still if it is what I am looking for… Still searching…
Merry Chistmast!


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