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Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 8:50 am
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Well one thing you have to concider is that the Rebel is 300 bills more than the Blues jr.That being said, it is much nicer .Wasnt sure about the head /cab bit, but its pretty lightwight and you can get a variety of sounds.


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It appears as if most people think the Egnater Rebel series is much better than the hot rod deluxe. I have a couple of questions, first does the Rebel 20 have reverb? Next how does the Rebel 20 or 30 compare to the Deluxe Reverb Re Issue in terms of tone and price.


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db0967 wrote:
It appears as if most people think the Egnater Rebel series is much better than the hot rod deluxe. I have a couple of questions, first does the Rebel 20 have reverb? Next how does the Rebel 20 or 30 compare to the Deluxe Reverb Re Issue in terms of tone and price.


Good question, I think the rebel 20 doesn't have reverb but the rebel 30 does, I'm new at egnater's so I can't really tell you anything but everyone seem to love 'em


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db0967 wrote:
It appears as if most people think the Egnater Rebel series is much better than the hot rod deluxe. I have a couple of questions, first does the Rebel 20 have reverb? Next how does the Rebel 20 or 30 compare to the Deluxe Reverb Re Issue in terms of tone and price.
No reverb.... The Rebel 20 runs 599.00 and you'll drop 999.00 on the Deluxe.(new prices)..... 8) Mike

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Since I definitely want reverb I guess my comparrison will be limited to the Rebel 30 vs. the DRRI. How do these two compare based on price and tone. I'm looking for a new amp to match up with my 1989 strat plus with the 3 gold lace sensors. I've been leaning towards the DRRI but now I'm hearing quite a bit about the Egnaters.


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Not sure either amp has reverb. Neither does my 1965 Bassman, but then I don't miss it. Good luck with your quest. The DRRI may be the way to go for you..... 8) Mike

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cherokee747 wrote:
db0967 wrote:
It appears as if most people think the Egnater Rebel series is much better than the hot rod deluxe. I have a couple of questions, first does the Rebel 20 have reverb? Next how does the Rebel 20 or 30 compare to the Deluxe Reverb Re Issue in terms of tone and price.
No reverb.... The Rebel 20 runs 599.00 and you'll drop 999.00 on the Deluxe.(new prices)..... 8) Mike


here are the specs of the rebel 30:

30-Watt All-Tube 1 x 12" Combo
Variable Wattage Control From 1w to 30w On Each Channel
Tube Mix Blends 6V6 and EL84 Power Tubes
Clean Channel: Volume, Bass, Treble
Overdrive Channel: Volume, Gain, Bass, Middle, Treble
Tight and Bright Voicing Switches On Each Channel
Individual Reverb Level for Each Channel with "Spillover"
Footswitch for Channel Select and Reverb On/Off
Buffered Effects Loop
Balanced XLR / ¼" Cabinet Voiced Line / Recording Output
Speaker Mute Mode for Silent Recording
Egnater Elite-80 Speaker by Celestion
100V / 115V / 230V Voltage Selector
Heavy Duty Cover Included


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I stand corrected...... 8) Mike

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So the rebel 20 beats the hell out of the blues junior, yo guys are convincing me of getting the 20 haha, if seen some mods for the hot rod and the blues jr. but I don't really like to mod an amp not that I have something against that but I prefer to have the amp as it is, I like moddded pedals though


As much as I love the DRRI and always recommend it, I think the Rebel 20 sounds better if you can live with an outboard reverb. It's just so much more versatile. Just my opinion though. A friend of mine is selling his DRRI to get one . I'm trying to talk him into keeping it and just waiting a bit longer to get the Rebel and borrow mine when he needs it. The Rebel 20 is light years ahead of any Hot Rod series in build quality and tone IMHO of course. Except the build quality. The Rebel IS light years ahead of the HRD series. Build quality and reliability isn't subjective like tone is.


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Rebel 30 vs DRRI. That's a tough call.

I love my DRRI. It's a one trick pony, but man it does it's thing really, really well. I don't think the Egnater can beat it for tone. If you're using pedals for OD I'd DEFINITELY go with the DRRI. You just can't the long spring reverb in a Deluxe Reverb RI and unbeatable blackface tone. And don't worry about not having enough volume; people gig with these amps everywhere.

The filpside is of course, the Rebel 30 is 2 channels, clean and OD, FX loop, variable wattage, tube mix, etc. Don't get me wrong, the Egnater's no tone slouch. It's got some killer tone too.

The question is: Are you a tone purist? Get the DRRI.
Would you rather have all the bells and whistles? Get the Rebel.

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I like the idea of the egnater.Its a pretty solid amp and it has great tone.My guess is people dont buy the DRRI for versatility,or too many of the Fender Vintage line of amps.I have a 59 bassman and it does one thing better than just about any amp.I dont use it because of its versitility,but because it nails the tweed tone i am looking for.With the egnater you have the variety of bunch of different tones,but i cant imagine it could nail say a 57 deluxe tweed tone as good as a 57 deluxe.I bet it can get close though.Supro would know better than anyone cuz i know he has played around with his enough.


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They are both really great amps. You can't go wrong with either one. I've been thinking about getting a Rebel too. Either the Rebel or a Mesa Lonestar Special. The LSS is such a nice amp, just a lttle pricey though. Funny, I never hear anyone on the Fender forum ever mention Mesa amps... I guess they're kinda the opposite of a Fender amp...

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They are both really great amps. You can't go wrong with either one. I've been thinking about getting a Rebel too. Either the Rebel or a Mesa Lonestar Special. The LSS is such a nice amp, just a lttle pricey though. Funny, I never hear anyone on the Fender forum ever mention Mesa amps... I guess they're kinda the opposite of a Fender amp...


I agree, they're both incredible amps. The reason I went with Egnater was because I was frustrated with Fenders construction techniques and reliability issues on their mid level amps. The tone and versatility of the Egnater is the icing on the cake. It can get pretty close to a tweed Princeton. It's not quite as dynamic as a 57 Deluxe but it's still awesome. I just ordered a Jan Phillips 5751 NOS to put in V1 per SlapChops recommendation because I really don't need as much gain as the Rebel can produce. It get's into a mini Marshall JCM 800 territory. It should knock the gain down around 30% and round out the tone. I don't do metal, mostly because I can't LOL. I'll let you guys know what happens. The 5751 might be a good choice to tame the HRDlx drive channel a little further.


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