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Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 3:21 pm
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1- It's up to you.

2- Yes the grill cloth's correct. It's called salt and pepper grill cloth.
Personally, I like the look.

3- I'm not sure about the heat. The ventilation is great on this amp, I wouldn't be concerned about it.

4- I would play with the tight and bright switches and the tone controls as well as the tube mix. With the tight switch down the bottom end is richer. It all depends on your ears, taste and guitar.

Keep trying different things. It takes a little while to learn how things work.


Ok thanks.

I wasn't clear about the cloth cover. I like it, too, but mine appears to be two separate pieces and one side seems to be sewn upside down so the two halves don't match. It's pretty ugly looking. I'll post a pic in my in-depth review later.


A photo would help. If it's really weird, I send it back for another one.


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Hi Boles , if it's okay, I'd like to touch on the break-in subjects. It's my experience, that the speaker will need 10-20hrs, at various volume settings to flex the surround sufficently. The electronics of the amp(all functions) just need to be run up to operating temps and tested at their full sweep. One way, is to play and test for 15min, take a break but leave amp on(in play mode), play again and test, and so on. You're just checking for early component failure. I agree with you about the headphones, it's the same case as the surround on speakers, especially the larger old ones. The ones I use for recording are from the early 70's, and make me look like I should be out on the taxi-way directing jets. But they're sweet and easy on the ears. That deal about the guitar cable is great! Does the cable need to have 20 hours of a 0.1V peak signal to align it's molecular structure? The George L's are good low capacitance cables. ART

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HaHa! I love my Egnater. billco I'm glad to here the sockets are mounted to the chassis. Fender had a pretty decent price drop. I find it funny to lower the quality and raise the price, you're right, you shouldn't have to thump a few to find a good one. The Princeton is a great practice/recording amp. It is too light for gigging unless you're in a small coffee house. You really can't get over drummer with it without micing it


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Hi Boles , if it's okay, I'd like to touch on the break-in subjects. It's my experience, that the speaker will need 10-20hrs, at various volume settings to flex the surround sufficently. The electronics of the amp(all functions) just need to be run up to operating temps and tested at their full sweep. One way, is to play and test for 15min, take a break but leave amp on(in play mode), play again and test, and so on. You're just checking for early component failure. I agree with you about the headphones, it's the same case as the surround on speakers, especially the larger old ones. The ones I use for recording are from the early 70's, and make me look like I should be out on the taxi-way directing jets. But they're sweet and easy on the ears. That deal about the guitar cable is great! Does the cable need to have 20 hours of a 0.1V peak signal to align it's molecular structure? The George L's are good low capacitance cables. ART


I appreciate you insight and expertise! I used your break in method on the Egnater and everything is going swell so far. Thanks!

Ha! I get the break in period for speakers, but copper wire? It's all so silly and it makes me think companies that sell wire with a break in caveat must know they're selling a shill because they want you to "wait for 20 hours" before you send them back... I guess they're hoping your ears will adjust to their determination of normal for good sound...

I can't find George L's anywhere. What am I missing in my search? Anybody have a website or a link?

If I'm going to be practicing all day -- let's say 8 hours -- with breaks in between up to an hour or more or so... do I leave my amp on or turn it off or put it in standby or just leave it in "play" mode all day?


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Here's my Egnater Rebel-20 Half Stack review and it includes a shot of the strange cloth covering the speaker:

http://urbansemiotic.com/2009/10/28/egn ... ck-review/

If you have comments on the review, you might want to post them directly on the article instead of here since this is the Fender Forum and I don't want to test my welcome. SMILE!


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boles,
What a great review and I'm glad you like the tone. No, the grill cloth is not right. My local MF has tons of Egnaters and I've never seen a grill look like that. I would contact Nate at Egnater along with the photo. I know every head is tested. Not sure about the cabinets. By the looks of yours, they don't. Go to their website or give them a call. It may be faster than the place you bought it from. They are very serious about the quality of their products and would like to know about it. Have fun with the amp.


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63supro wrote:
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What a great review and I'm glad you like the tone. No, the grill cloth is not right. My local MF has tons of Egnaters and I've never seen a grill look like that. I would contact Nate at Egnater along with the photo. I know every head is tested. Not sure about the cabinets. By the looks of yours, they don't. Go to their website or give them a call. It may be faster than the place you bought it from. They are very serious about the quality of their products and would like to know about it. Have fun with the amp.


Thanks for all your help, my friend!

I made Egnater aware of the review and the issue with the speaker cloth. I'll let you know what, if anything, they say and/or do about it.


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boles wrote:
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boles,
What a great review and I'm glad you like the tone. No, the grill cloth is not right. My local MF has tons of Egnaters and I've never seen a grill look like that. I would contact Nate at Egnater along with the photo. I know every head is tested. Not sure about the cabinets. By the looks of yours, they don't. Go to their website or give them a call. It may be faster than the place you bought it from. They are very serious about the quality of their products and would like to know about it. Have fun with the amp.


Thanks for all your help, my friend!

I made Egnater aware of the review and the issue with the speaker cloth. I'll let you know what, if anything, they say and/or do about it.


Nate at Egnater just replied and here is the entirety of his message: "Thanks."

Is the moving trend for businesses to just respond out-of-hand to clear their Inbox instead of actually saying something meaningful to a customer?


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You probably got an auto response. Nate has answered questions for me as well as Bruce. You could also try calling. It's a pretty small company. I know it bothers you, but it's cosmetic. Enjoy the amp and give them a day or two.
I never got a response from Fender of any kind regarding my HRDlx or GDec in more than a year.


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63supro wrote:
You probably got an auto response. Nate has answered questions for me as well as Bruce. You could also try calling. It's a pretty small company. I know it bothers you, but it's cosmetic. Enjoy the amp and give them a day or two.
I never got a response from Fender of any kind regarding my HRDlx or GDec in more than a year.


Funny! I find Fender incredibly fast and responsive. They're actually proactive in contacting me...

Yes, I agree. If this awful Egnater cloth covering -- that hurts my eyes -- is unique, maybe I should tell it on eBay at triple the price? SMILE!

I am certainly enjoying the amp and will continue to do so.

Thanks again for all the help.


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Let me know how you make out.


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Here is Egnater Nate's newest reply to my email:

"Sorry about the miscommunication. I failed to connect the two emails, as I read the one you sent me I thought it was in regards to simply your review. Of which we were greatly appreciative. In regards to your terribly mismatched grill cloth I must apologize for this. We play test every amp before they ship however we do expect the cabinets to come from the manufacturer in a uniformed sellable state, this one however did not. If you just received it from Music123, it would probably in your best interest to give them a call and see if you can't send it in for an exchange. As per your recommendation I have forwarded this to Bruce as well as our manufacture as a blatant example of what the Rebel112x shouldn’t look like. Please keep me in the loop as to happens with Music123 because we want to make sure you get taken care of."

I'm disappointed they're pawning this off on Music123.


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boles,
Just get it replaced. It's silly to be disappointed in Egnater. Most times you return defective products to the point of purchase. At least they apologized and are taking action with the cabinet supplier. It's probably easier to rectify your problem through 123 Music. They don't have a store front and distrubute their products through 123Music, MF and GC.

Slide the amp head out of the head cabinet and when you see how well it's made you'll have another smile on your face. It's really well made.

That's why I never deal with guitars and amps mail order.
It's just easier in case something goes wrong. I saw your comments on your review. You only had the amp for a couple of days. When you saw the grillcloth, why did you dispose of the shipping boxes? I wouldn't be happy about it either but some Princeton Reverbs experience baffle buzz. If you got one defective mail order, you'd have to ship that too.


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