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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 3:57 pm
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budglo, my man! Alright now. Once you've gone beige-and-black, you'll never go back!

I know that 63Supro plays his through the Egnater 1x12 cab, and loves it... I'm thinking of buying one to have a different voice available. But I play mine through an open-backed Mojo 1x12 cab (which is crazy oversized... it's actually a single 15" cab with a 12" baffle... Mojo will build about anything you like), loaded with an Eminence Red Fang that is punchy, full-range and extremely efficient.

Here's a pic of the dreaded Zencaster in my studio with the Rebel and the above-described cab. This rig is the studio killer of all times.

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Nice rig.The one thing I like about the egnater is the flexibility both in tone and size.Right now I am playing my Bassman in the bigger venues and my Bjr at the smaller, but the more I play the bjr, the less I am satisfied with the tone.Its probably my amp collection has stepped up in quality in the last year.I need something thats portable for rehearsals and smaller venues, and totally reliable.I was leaning towards a 57 deluxe clone or a DRRI, but I think the egnater can fill that bill in perfectly and with the ability to go down to 1 watt , volume becomes less of an issue.Its probably priced comparably to the DRRI.BTW, that is one outstanding guitar.


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I use the Egnater 1x12. My rig is so small that when I went to look at it at GC I almost tripped over it. The Egnater cabinet has a custom voiced Egnater Celestion Elite-80 Speaker in a birch cabinet. It's closed backed and front ported. I love it. It's got a nice balance all the way around. Nice bottom end too.
SlapChop, that's a great looking rig. The Zencaster is awesome. Looks as great as it sounds too.


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63supro wrote:
I use the Egnater 1x12. My rig is so small that when I went to look at it at GC I almost tripped over it. The Egnater cabinet has a custom voiced Egnater Celestion Elite-80 Speaker in a birch cabinet. It's closed backed and front ported. I love it. It's got a nice balance all the way around. Nice bottom end too.
SlapChop, that's a great looking rig. The Zencaster is awesome. Looks as great as it sounds too.
Supro, my impressions when I played it was it had some great bottom end.Iwas really impressed as how compact it was.Thats the one thing that I really need.I am 51 and dont feel like lugging something heavy around any more.Thats one of the things about the bjr that I like.The fact that you can dial it down to 1 watt I think is a great plus. too.You can always hit that sweet spot without blowing peoples ears out.


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budglo, I hear ya. I'm 53 and it's the same thing. Egnater gives you a handy padded carrying bag for the head. The head is only 16lbs. Oh, and 1 watt can be really loud too if you want it to be. The amp does not use an attenuator for the wattage drop. Bruce explains everything on the Egnater site. There is a forum called Rig Talk http://www.rig-talk.com/forum/index.php

There is a portion for Egnater. They are a loyal bunch and I can see why.

Bruce and Jeff answer questions on the forum. Bruce and Jeff have answered questions I had before I bought the amp.


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budglo, I hear ya. I'm 53 and it's the same thing. Egnater gives you a handy padded carrying bag for the head. The head is only 16lbs. Oh, and 1 watt can be really loud too if you want it to be. The amp does not use an attenuator for the wattage drop. Bruce explains everything on the Egnater site. There is a forum called Rig Talk http://www.rig-talk.com/forum/index.php

There is a portion for Egnater. They are a loyal bunch and I can see why.

Bruce and Jeff answer questions on the forum. Bruce and Jeff have answered questions I had before I bought the amp.
I appreciate the info Supro.It seems to be pretty well made.At first I wasnt sure I wanted to have to fuss with the knobs, but everything is really pretty easy to dial in.Its not nearly as touchy as the knob on the HR amps.The more I got to thinking about my needs, the more it seemed like something I should check out .It is really portible and easy to setup and I really like the tones you can get.There have been a few places that we played that even the Blues jr was a little much .I know the one thing i was never satisfied with the Bjr is the boxiness.The egnater is anything but boxy.I am probably gonna have to wait until after Christmas , but It is definately on my list of my next purchase.I even thought about the DRRI which is a great amp, but its still over 40 lbs.Thats the one nice thing about the bjr I liked.


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63supro wrote:
budglo, I hear ya. I'm 53 and it's the same thing. Egnater gives you a handy padded carrying bag for the head. The head is only 16lbs. Oh, and 1 watt can be really loud too if you want it to be. The amp does not use an attenuator for the wattage drop. Bruce explains everything on the Egnater site. There is a forum called Rig Talk http://www.rig-talk.com/forum/index.php

There is a portion for Egnater. They are a loyal bunch and I can see why.

Bruce and Jeff answer questions on the forum. Bruce and Jeff have answered questions I had before I bought the amp.
I appreciate the info Supro.It seems to be pretty well made.At first I wasnt sure I wanted to have to fuss with the knobs, but everything is really pretty easy to dial in.Its not nearly as touchy as the knob on the HR amps.The more I got to thinking about my needs, the more it seemed like something I should check out .It is really portible and easy to setup and I really like the tones you can get.There have been a few places that we played that even the Blues jr was a little much .I know the one thing i was never satisfied with the Bjr is the boxiness.The egnater is anything but boxy.I am probably gonna have to wait until after Christmas , but It is definately on my list of my next purchase.I even thought about the DRRI which is a great amp, but its still over 40 lbs.Thats the one nice thing about the bjr I liked.


I waited gor GC to have a sale. I got 20% off on the head by trading in an old pos Ibanez Metal Distortion Pedal that I didn't use anymore. The circuit boards are dual layer with plated eyelet holes for the components. Heat sinks are used and I can't find a ribbon connector in the thing. Here's some photos of the inside of the amp. Just scroll down a little to see them.
The bias test points for the tubes are probe sockets with the mv values printed on the board. It's a shame the HRDlx isn't built like this.

http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showth ... 34&page=34

Notice all the hard wiring and the shielded preamp tubes not some cheesy piece of foam. And also notice how thick the boards are. Seems like no shortcuts were taken in the construction.


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Great pics.Interesting how the tubes are mounted differently.As everone knows , heat rises , so it wouldnt really be an issue to the board.How well does your amp cut thru the mix?


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It cuts like a knife. The tube mix knob really helps too. So far I never had to get the cabinet off the floor. I never had to tank headroom to cut either. I'm getting another cabinet for larger venues just in case. That should help with headroom even further. My HRDlx always seemed to get lost in the mix and I had to keep cranking it up. Some gigs I'd run the HRDlx on 8 and couldn't cut the mix even in small clubs.

The other guitar player uses a DRRI and this Egnater slays it. You get a pretty good volume bump around 12-1 o'clock on the tube mix dial. Bruce Egnater calls it the "sweet spot". It's a really incredible tone when it's cranked a little. It just sings. I haven't been using any distortion pedals. I'm thinking about going to BYOC and building a couple of kits. They have a new Reverb kit that sounds cool. http://www.buildyourownclone.com/

Sorry for the rant, but this amp really gets me stoked. It's been a few months and the honeymoon still isn't over. :D :D


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No need to apologize.I like hearing from someone who actually uses it in gigging situations.Thats where the rubber meets the road.You are right about the hr getting lost in the mix.It always mistified me when that happened.My bassman has never gotten lost.I think in the power catagory the egnater is , it is a good value.A solid 20-30 watt amp for 899 is pretty good with that flexibility.I initially thought of getting the 30 watt combo, but I really need something to replace the blues jr place when I play small clubs.I like the idea of being able to use different cabs too .Just alot of flexibility.


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63supro wrote:

Sorry for the rant, but this amp really gets me stoked. It's been a few months and the honeymoon still isn't over. :D :D


I love the passion in this thread and you guys convinced me to get the Egnater now and wait on the Princeton Reverb.

I just took advantage of the 20% discount at Music123.com today -- given because of Musician's Friend database meltdown -- and the Rebel Half Stack should be here Monday!

It interesting that, in addition to the $170 off, I also DID NOT have to pay the "extra" $20 Musician's Friend charges for delivery of this item because it's so "heavy."


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Welcome to "The Brotherhood of the Egnater".
The Princeton is a fine amp. It's not a great gigging amp if you need to get over a drummer unless you mic it, but it's a great recording amp as is the Rebel. I hope you're as happy with your new amp as I am with mine.


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63supro wrote:
Welcome to "The Brotherhood of the Egnater".
The Princeton is a fine amp. It's not a great gigging amp if you need to get over a drummer unless you mic it, but it's a great recording amp as is the Rebel. I hope you're as happy with your new amp as I am with mine.


I'm sure I'll love it! It was, after all, my first choice before I chickened out. Heh. You guys pounded the sense back into me. I'm sure I'll get a Princeton Reverb in the future, too.

How does the Rebel perform at 1 watt bedroom settings? Any hints or clues on what numbers to use?

What's your favorite tube mix? I read somewhere that someone said "one o'clock" gave the best overall sound to his ear.

Anything else I should know? What's your standard setup? Once you have the sound dialed in, do you fiddle with it much?


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I mess with it all the time and find so many new great sounds. The beauty thing about the tube mix is if you want a sort of Fendery side lean toward the 6v6. If you want the sound a little more aggressive lean toward the EL84 side. You get a volume boost at around 12-1 o'clock with a combination of all the power tubes. You will hear a little bit of a static when you turn the tube mix dial. It is completely normal and is covered in the manual. The manual also has some great settings to try too. The amp also provides a lot of gain. SlapChop changed one of the preamp tubes to tame the gain a bit but it's all a matter of taste. I may try it to see what happens. I don't play metal and don't need all that gain. You'll be finding new tones for months. There are no numbers on the dials. My settings for my Strat are way different than my Humbucker guitars.


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63supro wrote:
I mess with it all the time and find so many new great sounds. The beauty thing about the tube mix is if you want a sort of Fendery side lean toward the 6v6. If you want the sound a little more aggressive lean toward the EL84 side. You get a volume boost at around 12-1 o'clock with a combination of all the power tubes. You will hear a little bit of a static when you turn the tube mix dial. It is completely normal and is covered in the manual. The manual also has some great settings to try too. The amp also provides a lot of gain. SlapChop changed one of the preamp tubes to tame the gain a bit but it's all a matter of taste. I may try it to see what happens. I don't play metal and don't need all that gain. You'll be finding new tones for months. There are no numbers on the dials. My settings for my Strat are way different than my Humbucker guitars.


Excellent! Sounds like a real winner. I can't wait to play around with the mix and it's so great a good manual comes with the product. That's becoming a rarity these days.


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