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Post subject: Will a "Mic'ed up "65 Deluxe Reverb RI" have
Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 1:12 pm
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Hey im just wondering if a Mic'ed up 65 Deluxe Reverb RI will have more headroom when going through a P.A. Because im in love with this amp but i really want to use its clean setting, but it most likely will need to be mic'ed up. But will it have good headroom once Mic'ed?


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Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 1:48 pm
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Dragz wrote:
Hey im just wondering if a Mic'ed up 65 Deluxe Reverb RI will have more headroom when going through a P.A. Because im in love with this amp but i really want to use its clean setting, but it most likely will need to be mic'ed up. But will it have good headroom once Mic'ed?


Well, sure, because you won't have to crank it as high to be heard. You can get better clean headroom out of any amp by mic'ing it into the PA.


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Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 1:52 pm
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Putting a mic in front of your DR won't change the capabilities of the amp; the mic just picks up what is coming out of the amp and sends that signal to the PA.

You can mic the amp at clean volume (3-4) and use the PA to get as loud as you need (if that's what you're asking).

If you do a search you can find some dicussions on how to altar the amp to give it more headroom (tubes, speaker changes, mods, etc.).


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Hi Dragz, IMHO mic'ing amps work fine, but you're adding the mic to the signal chain and off axis ambient sound. For recording this isn't much of a concern because of the enviornment, but on stage? You might want to check out Weber's line out kit. It takes the signal off of the speaker output and is adjustable. Just another option. ART

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A line out, as mentioned by aclempoppi, is certainly an option, but you'll find that using a standard instrument mic like a Shure SM-57 is the industry standard. The mic simply picks up what's coming out of the speakers; consequently, you can set the amp anywhere you like so long as it's loud enough not to get totally drowned out by ambient stage volume. Also, you can adjust where the mic is in relation to the speaker cones to change the sound. It's usually best to place the mic about halfway between the center of a speaker cone and the edge.

Keep in mind that band sound is completely different from basement sound. What sounds good in your basement (typically pushed bass and treble, and a bit of mid drop) will often get drowned out onstage. The middle control on your amp is like a master tone control; the more you push it, the better your amp will cut through the mix. It might not sound great when playing alone, but trust me: it will do wonders in a band situation. So many people play their amps with scooped mids and fail to understand that even a tiny drop on the mid control can cause an amp to get swallowed up in the mix.


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For playing live, mic'ing it is the only way to go(as opposed to the line out method). I'd just crank it up just like it is. It's plenty loud enough for small venues.

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Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 7:32 pm
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Dragz wrote:
Hey im just wondering if a Mic'ed up 65 Deluxe Reverb RI will have more headroom when going through a P.A. Because im in love with this amp but i really want to use its clean setting, but it most likely will need to be mic'ed up. But will it have good headroom once Mic'ed?


Your headroom should be OK if you go through the PA. If you have a soundman he will prefer to go that route if he/she has a good soundsystem. Otherwise go for the mic hanging over your speaker. If you play clubs and lounges your 65 Deluxe Reverb is plenty loud without additional amplification. If you do the club may never ask you back again. Now if you play in large auditoriums and casino's they will often control your sound for you. Remember that most folks go to a bar or a club to find a "partner" and do want to be able to try their pick up lines. If you play too loud and people can not have a conversation they will never come and see you again or complain to the bartender.


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