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Post subject: supersonic 112 combo - clean volume
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 5:01 pm
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What volume level should I be able to get my bassman/vibrolux channel to before it starts breaking up?
I ask because I've had the amp for over a year now, but just recently was able to really start turning up the volume. I noticed that I don't have much headroom when on the bassman voicing. Anything beyond 2 starts sounding dirty. I can get a little louder with the vibrolux voicing, but it still seems like this amp should be able to be clean and loud. I have not replaced any tubes yet. My nearest authorized service center (amp is still under warranty) is quite a long drive from me, and I'm sure the turn-around time is at least 3 weeks so I'm trying to avoid having to go that route if possible.


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Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 2:21 am
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I had the exact same problem with my super sonic combo, and i think without a tube change the maximum clean volume is at about 2-2.5, of course depending on the vintage mode.

I did manage to get a bit more clean volume by increasing the effects loops return level. Of course you must then have the loop on all the time, but that's how i run it anyway with few pedals.

This at least postponed my tube change process because i did not need that much more volume. Haven't tried but maybe some clean boost-pedal could work on the loop as well.

This might not be scientifically the best trick and probably isn't but it helped me a bit. But when the time comes to change the tubes I think there won't be fenders groove tubes inside my amp anymore.


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Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 8:33 am
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Try putting a lower gain tube in position V1, which is the input gain. Also try a lower gain tube in V2 for the vintage circuit. This will reduce the overall volume though.

Here is a website listing different preamp tube types and their gain factors:

http://thetubestore.com/gainfactor.html

Even with lower gain preamp tubes, the Bassman channel is going to break up pretty early, and I think that is by design. On my SS. anything over 2 on the Bassman channel is really loud! If you need that kind of volume, but clean, you might need to consider a Twin Reverb instead.


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Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 6:48 am
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I have found that the Supersonic really seems to work best with single coil Fender guitars. My guitars with high output pickups like P90s or buckers really slam the input section and make it overdrive very early on the volume dial. That's OK if you want that sound, but not if you need some clean headroom. It's too bad they didn't put a high and low input on it.

One workaround is to use some type of pedal before the input that lets you reduce the signal going into the amp.


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Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 12:57 pm
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The bassman channel from the super-sonic is based after a 64 bassman head, and those were made to rock. They didn't have much headroom either, at least, the one that I tried years ago.


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