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Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 2:29 pm
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That's the problem. A novice can completely trash an already delicate amp. A little knowledge is a dangerous thing. I wouldn't suggest modifying a pcb in a HRD amp at all unless you seriously know what you're doing.

Most people who buy these amp seem to be fairly new players or guys like me who trusted Fender and haven't bought a new Fender amp in 30 years and never thought of questioning their reliability.


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63supro wrote:
That's the problem. A novice can completely trash an already delicate amp. A little knowledge is a dangerous thing. I wouldn't suggest modifying a pcb in a HRD amp at all unless you seriously know what you're doing.

Most people who buy these amp seem to be fairly new players or guys like me who trusted Fender and haven't bought a new Fender amp in 30 years and never thought of questioning their reliability.
I wouldnt say BillM is a novice, if you are refering to having other people do thier own , it does come with a warning .I wouldnt attempt to do it myself , not because i cant solder, but because I have big sausage fingers. :oops:


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Budglo your being far too defensive of someone who's not really being slated. Theres nothing in Supro's comment calling Billm a novice. His point was that it could encourage novices to try and undertake something their not capable of. And i have to agree with him, the majority of people i come across that tout the blues jrs sound are either inexperienced players, or people like me. Suckered in for one reason or another. Are there seasoned pro's that swear by their blues jr, probably. Ive yet to meet one though.

Tips sites like that are very much an encouragment to the novice. I myself would never have taken a sodering iron to a board if not for the plethora of info on the internet. I dont judge myself as either a novice or a pro when it comes to amps. More a happy chancer who's prepared for a zap off his own equiptment. One reason i'm always very eager to help people with guitar problems. Everyone has to learn somewhere.

The good thing aboul Bill's site is that its centered around a amp that most people who bought it will never take the back off it. Being get it to a shop or just bung another pedal infront kinds of players. Their going to ship their amp to Bill and have him do the mod. He's made himself a nice little business through his knowledge. Theres nothing wrong in that at all. Infact kudos to the bloke for using his smarts.

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Well, maybe those amps werent marketed for you.There are alot of people out there who cant afford to spend a few bucks more.I believe those are budget amps,pure and simple.To expect them to perform like a princeton reverb is just dreaming.Like I said, whether he meets expectations or not , only those who have had him work on the amps can really say.I personally wouldnt spend alot of money to mod an amp, i would just buy a better one.Too many people are quick to criticise his work that have never played one of his modded amps.You cant judge them by the soundclips either.


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You know billco, after looking at my previous post, you are right , i shouldnt have called you a coward.I apoligize.Whatever you were saying ,didnt warrant that.I still dont think this is a place to trash someone.You are entitled to your opinion, for sure.I guess the people who have had work done by Bill are the best ones to judge.PS-theres nothing wrong with my comprehension skills.That was just another way to call someone stupid without saying it. :wink:


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Yknow i certainly wouldnt class the blues jr as a budget amp. Their £400 odd, at some places in the uk. Thats edging towards silly money for a 15 watt amp in my book. Particularly given the number of superb amp builders offering better for less here.

Twelvebar noted sometime back that theres always someone ready to piss on your chips on guitar forums. It doesnt matter what gear you own, someone always wants to slate it. So i say judge things by price, by all means. Its the only way to reasonably ascertain where they were designed to go. A £400/$660 15 watt amp is too near boutique pricing in my book. Its certainly leaps and bounds above marshall pricing even, considering the reversed nature of their export to the USA. How glaringly worse is it when you consider people like peavey, crate (love em) and laney battling in the shadows of the big boys, and in a lot of ways outstripping em.

BTW the vibrochamp xd sounds great through a 1936, just not for very long. When i can build a 2x12 4ohm cab my vibrochamp combo's becoming a head. Humf victoria indeed, we are not amused. :wink:

Not pissing on chips, just trying to be constructive. I dont see BillM as being any worse than fender, or any other company for that matter. They've all produced duffers, atleast he's making money by making the thing better and hopefully saving someone the cost of another amp. Atleast for awhile. If you think his warranty voiding mods are bad, you ought see what i did to my baja tele. Set the neck timber straight and put the relief in the frets, just to prove i could do it. And to prove the stewmac propaganda statement of 'theres no tone like a perfectly straight neck under tension' (see they all do it), wrong. Luckily that mod has yeilded experience thats going to be used on a fiberglass violin bass soon (that neck is perfectly straight). Ok its not something that was a neccessary adjustment to a bad instrument. It was a bit of fun conducted by me for me, thats taught me a lot and has future applications. I believe a lot of BillM's mods are the same in origin. His old site was packed full of free info, things that he's discovered about the amp, and was all too happy to share. He's seen the amount of hits the site waas getting and had the smarts to think 'i could make a bit off this'. Cant fault him for that. I'd do exactly the same.

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I would never compare a BJ to Claptons Layla champ. If you examine the recording and mix of that cut, its not that good of a cut, The playing is wonderfull . the song is wonderfull. They were in the zone so to speak. but the recording, not that good. some players dont have top of the line gear. That should not stop you from making good music. Its in the hands and the Heart. Top of the line gear is not going to make you a great song writer. Some of the best players Ive ever known had amps that were od balls and patch together.


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You are right nikininja, thanks for your wise words.Watchgrow, i am glad that i am not the only one who thought Claptons tone on Layla wasnt his best. :shock:


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Watchgrow i think your bang on right with the oddball gear statement. Some of my happiest times were when i was doing stupid things with ridiculously low budget, falling to bits, worst of the 2nd hand japanese pedals market. The majority of the problem with gear these days is that everyone sounds just like everyone else. Everythings so generic its not funny. Theres zero individuality in music and instruments these days. Everyones too scarred of stuff not selling, they wont take a risk. Your never going to see pedals like guyatone or something as groundbreaking (at its debut) as the big muff. Particularly out of modern BOO(hiss)tique manufacturers. Lets face it the modern fuzz/drive market is a utter joke. £250+ for £4 worth of parts and a design exactly the same as everyone elses. Even electroharmonix have gone terrible with pedals, they just keep making worse and worse clones of their back catalogue.

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But its still one sweet guitar intro. A really cool song. Yes Im a Clapton fan.


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Wow did this post get log in a hurry. LOL
I never did call Billm a novice. I'm glad that was pointed out. What he does sell is turd polish. (No offense) I realized that after a tube change with my HRDlx. I just gave up before I spent money on a good speaker. I'm still seriously diggin the Egnater. I play it every day and it adds a new tonal dimension to my tone. It makes me play more and that's usually a good thing. It's a serious tone monster and it's been absolutely flawless so far. :D


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63supro wrote:
Wow did this post get log in a hurry. LOL
I never did call Billm a novice. I'm glad that was pointed out. What he does sell is turd polish. (No offense) I realized that after a tube change with my HRDlx. I just gave up before I spent money on a good speaker. I'm still seriously diggin the Egnater. I play it every day and it adds a new tonal dimension to my tone. It makes me play more and that's usually a good thing. It's a serious tone monster and it's been absolutely flawless so far. :D
Supro, I know i misunderstood your post and i sincerely apologize.i am glad you are digging the egnater.Anything that makes a person want to play more is a beautiful thing.


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