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Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 3:37 pm
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Go to a guitar shop and check out a Egnater Rebel 20.

Goes from British type distortion to American clean at the turn of a dial, and anywhere in between. It has both 6v6 and el84 power tubes. It also lets you select your output power anywhere from 1watt to 20watts.
http://www.egnateramps.com/Rebel20.html

Quite amazing little amp. seems built like a tank
It is a bit more expensive than the Blues Junior though..


Another Rebel fan!

I used to have a Blues Junior. It didn't rock. The Rebel most certainly does. ANd yes, it costs a bit more than a BJr.

But between the two amps, the percentage of increased cost is much, much smaller than the percentage of improved tone and versatility. The Rebel is a little marvel.

Imagine a head that lets you go from tweed Princeton to Deluxe Reverb with a dial twist or two.... from a 5-watt VOX-like practice amp to a roaring 18-watt Marshall.

I love mine, as you can tell.


I've been converted! I'm think I'm going to sell my Blues Jr. and buy an Egnator Rebel 20 myself! 8)
Traitor.Just kidding .How much does the rebel weigh?


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I think the head is about 16 pounds. This is the set up I want.
http://www.egnateramps.com/Rebel20StackPop.html
Maybe just a half stack. I have the CS 57 Twin Tweed for gigs etc.


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Gotcha , i see online they make a 30 watt combo that weighs 40 lbs for 899 american dollars.Its a great concept , i wouldnt be suprized to see other manufacturers follow suit.I can see it now, the "hotrod series with adjustable wattage and tube blending ."Supro and the others would love that. :wink:


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But the Egnater is not a combo. I'm getting away from piggyback amps.


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I would never try to talk you out of getting a Fender. I'm a Fender man but they do make a 30 watt combo.
http://www.egnateramps.com/Rebel30112.html


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A 30 watt combo is a stage amp. I'm looking for a low wattage combo amp. Even a 15 watt Blues Junior is really too big but I wouldn't mind having it as I could make it work but it's got a bright sound with no bass.

I pre-ordered the Marshall Class 5 but I'm hearing they won't be here until November. I think it will be worth the wait though.


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Yeah you're right. The blues jr. is really too loud. I'm just adding stuff to my wish list which is already too long! :wink:


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357mag wrote:
A 30 watt combo is a stage amp. I'm looking for a low wattage combo amp. Even a 15 watt Blues Junior is really too big but I wouldn't mind having it as I could make it work but it's got a bright sound with no bass.

I pre-ordered the Marshall Class 5 but I'm hearing they won't be here until November. I think it will be worth the wait though.
But my understanding is you can dial it down from 30 watts to 1 watt.So you can have your cake and eat it too.


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Yeah that Egnater looks good but the price tag is kinda steep. The Marshall Class 5 will only cost $400.


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357mag wrote:
Yeah that Egnater looks good but the price tag is kinda steep. The Marshall Class 5 will only cost $400.


But will do half as much.

You will never get the clean headroom from a five-watt Marshall with EL84s that you will get form the Rebel at 20 watts on the 6V6's. The 'unreachable star" of getting Fender clean and Marshall mean from one amp is possible with the Rebel. For the functionality, the price is stupid low.

Now, for the huge segment of the market that doesn't want anything but grinding overdrive at living-room SPL's, the Marshall looks like a groovy toy. But for those of us who saw the potential versatility of the Rebel, it's the ideal amp.

fhopkins... you will never regret that decision. :D


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The number of times I go skydiving over shark infested waters is zero.
The number of times I play clean is zero.


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You can turn the Egnater down to 1 watt on each channel on the 30 watt combo amp or anything in between. So the power is a moot point. I sold my HRDlx for an Egnater Rebel 20. It's one of the best amps I've ever owned in 40 years of playing.

They are also coming out with a 30 watt head. :D


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On another forum a guy was telling someone who just bought an Egnater not to get too comfortable with it because the reliablility of those amps is not very good. He was going on about knowing someone that had two of them and they both went down.


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Marshalls IMHO are any thing but reliable. Even though i've heard a lot people bad mouthing the BJ since bought mine. I took the plunge with the BJ a month ago and I've been real happy with it so far. Its a good gigging amp, for sure. I have found it hard to control in a practice enviroment though, but we practice probably a lot quiter than most bands. Compounded by the size of our rehersal space (20x10). Dynamics are crucial to me.
As far as distortion, I'd probably use a processer even if I owned the greatest amp in the world. It's that dynamics thing again. Vol. Waah, tuner all right there, and my BJ represents all those tones and effects very well.


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357mag wrote:
On another forum a guy was telling someone who just bought an Egnater not to get too comfortable with it because the reliablility of those amps is not very good. He was going on about knowing someone that had two of them and they both went down.


Read it on the internet, it must be true.

I've had my Rebel since December, and haven't had a second's trouble with it. That's the first report I've heard anywhere about problems with the Rebel, and I've been watching carefully. You can always tell the difference between an actual complaint and pure made-up stone throwing.

For example, the real story will be something like "I (that is, me personally) had a problem with the tubes/traces lifting/transformer (a specific problem) in my Hot Rod Deluxe."

The made-up story goes "I know a guy (not me, so don't ask questions) who had two of those Rebels and they both went down (completely non-specific but catastrophic failure)."

Now you've made it one better. Your story goes: "On another forum (don't go looking for it) I read a post from a guy I don't even know who says he knows a guy etc."


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