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Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 8:55 pm
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Okay Supro, I'm an old shool amp guy and not familiar with the Egnator amps. What can you tell me about their construction and tone. Seriously, I'd like to hand off my mid-60's Fender amps to family members and just have a newer lower watt amp for myself. The loudest I'd play would be at church, and that doesn't take much, given the acoustics and situation. ART


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Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 9:17 pm
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It totally blows me away. I've had it about 3 weeks and the honeymoon still isn't over. Construction wise it's light years ahead of the hot rod and VM series in every way. It's pcb constructed but I was thrilled to see the circuit boards are doubled-sided with plated through holes, so it should hold up great. Most amps in this price range like the hot rod series have single sided boards which I had tons of problems with.

Really easy to bias. There are bias test sockets and trim pots to adjust the power tubes. The recommended values are printed on the board. It runs 6V6 and EL84's that are continuously variable. The tubes are JJ's. The preamp tubes have spring loaded covers.

You can dial the watts from 1 to 20. The head and speaker cabinet is Birch not particle board. The extension cabinet is loaded with a Celestion Elite 80 customized for Egnater rated at 80 watts and the cabinet is voiced for the amp. The amp designed in the US and is assembled in China and inspected and tested for quality in the US.

It's plenty loud for what I do which is mostly Blues and Hard Rock. headroom is decent but that's subjective. It's a high quality amp. I had a couple of questions about the amp and I was contacted in a couple of hours. So I guess customer service is top notch.

Heres a link to the innard photos http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showth ... 34&page=34

And here's a link to Egnaters forum.
http://www.rig-talk.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=26

Check one out you might like it.

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Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 5:36 am
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I second 63Supro. I've had my Rebel for several months now, and it's still just completely awesome... so versatile that I still feel like I've only scratched the tonal surface.

I write and produce commercial music for a living, so I was looking for the ultimate killer studio amp. 15-watts is too much if I want overdrive, but the little 2-watters didn't have any headroom so I couldn't get any Fender-y chime. All I wanted was an amp that would sound kinda like a Deluxe Reverb, a tweed Princeton, a 5E3 Deluxe, a Vox AC15, an 18 watt Marshall, and some kind of modern amp I didn't know about yet. :D When I saw the early press releases on the Rebel 20 I started drooling, and when I played the first ones that came into my local GC, I was blown away.

Construction is excellent. I was surprised at the solid controls and the nice tolex finishing... at this price, I expected less, frankly, but the Rebel is just "nice."

I play mine through a 12" open-back cab loaded with an Eminence Red Fang, but I'm thinking about buying one of Egnater's closed-back single 12" cabs for the variation. Also, I modded mine very slightly... I replaced the 12ax7 in V1 with a lower-gain 5751, and I'm very happy with the results.... the amp won't rock as crazy hard as it did, but I dig the mellower tone and pick response I get this way (and I can always swap a 12ax7 back in for ultra-crunch when I feel like it).

Here's a clip of just one of the Rebel's coolish tones: 5-watts, 6V6. mild gain, high volume... Strat ---> Barber Tone Press compressor --> Rebel 20.

http://www.gravitymusic.com/audio/Blues ... essure.mp3

DOn't get me wrong, Fender makes some nice amps. I really like the DRRI and the Super Sonic. But for the money, the Rebel is a whole new thing.


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Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 10:05 am
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Interesting info. Good info too for someone interested in the amp.

Egnater should pay you fellows a commission for being such good salesmen. :lol:

I didn't see, in the photos, what was meant by "the circuit boards are doubled-sided with plated through holes". I'm guessing that only a photo of the edge, or one cut apart could show that. Is it a laminated board of two, or more, green boards glued together? The "plated through holes" - maybe a small metal tube of some sort in the holes? Just wondering.

I know your main point is - a well designed and made pcb constructed amp can be good, and tough enough to last years.

And SlapChop - Your song you posted the link to is great! I like it alot. [thumbsup] & [clapping]

Please don't get mad - OK? - (no offense meant) But, Your comment about the price makes me think you must be rich, or well off - as some put it. At the very least - wealthy enough to live very comfortably. That would make your view of prices and value much different from mine.

However your comments about the amp in your studio situation and your view of the amps capability - I found good, informative and interesting too. I know it's just your opinion - but there's your recording too that shows ONE sound (you mentioned it being versatile) that the amp does for you very well.

Will it do Praise and Worship at church? I don't know - that would remain to be seen. In most of the churches I have been in (Christian, protestant) - that would mean a totally "clean", sparklly "clean" sound. (aka Fender or Peavey solid state "clean" channel) (and that's IF a guitar was allowed in there with their "HOLY" piano) Few would tolerate even a slight overdriven, or "dirty" sound - like a very slightly cranked Deluxe Reverb sound.

Even a Twin Reverb is not clean enough for some.
Must be those tubes doing it - right? :wink: (maybe "conservative"?)

Anyway - Does Egnater need another salesman? Things are getting tight here and I could use some money. :lol: :lol:


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Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 10:18 am
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One thing I did notice in the pictures -

Even though you have to pull the chassis to get to the bias pots and test points - the capacitors were mounted so that it would be hard to get "hit" by the stored energy. Good for personal safety - and these shaky, old hands of mine. :lol:


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Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 10:25 am
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rholloman wrote:
Egnater should pay you fellows a commission for being such good salesmen. :lol:

Please don't get mad - OK? - (no offense meant) But, Your comment about the price makes me think you must be rich, or well off - as some put it. At the very least - wealthy enough to live very comfortably. That would make your view of prices and value much different from mine.



Thanks for the kind words, sir.

No offense taken, and I'm not rich. I am professional musician and can write purchases off, but that doesn't make me indiscriminate with the money... in fact, I'm way tighter with a buck than most of my guitar-playing brethren.

I'm just talking about what the amp does, and the quality of the design and of the sound... for $599 for the head, well, I don't see anything that compares. The half-stack sells for a ahir more than what you'd pay for a Hot Rod Deluxe, and there is NO comparison in capability or construction quality. And it's less than the DRRI.

I'm not saying that 600 bills is potato chip money. But compared to anything you can buy in that range, the Rebel just blows the doors in.

Super-ultra-squeaky-Twin clean? Well, nothing but a Twin does that. But the Rebel cleans are very, very nice... With the watts knob all the way up and the 6V6's selected, you're running a circuit that sounds a lot like a Deluxe Reverb.... warm, responsive, and clean with a strong, "stringy" tone.


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Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 8:50 pm
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Different countries so the prices are different but the HDRlx and blues deluxe are running 1150+$ at the shops here now.

The Egnater Rebel 20 head is 750$ and you need to get a cab for it so price wise they seem about even to getting a hdrlx type amp.

First thing I noticed when I tired to pick it up to check it out, the little rebel head is really heavily built, like a tank. And the sounds you can dial in are really great .

They did not have a Renegade in stock (65 watts) but the Tourmaster (100 watts) floored me, that is one serious sounding amp. bit more power than I want.

You can read all about them here http://www.egnateramps.com/start.html
or watch demo vids here http://www.egnateramps.com/Video.html

I am thinking either the rebel or renegade may be on the charts for me when I manage to trade in one of the blues deluxes we have.

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Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 9:00 pm
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Thanks to all of you for your advise and info! I'll have to check one out. As for ''squeaky clean" and the modern Praise and Worship music, I don't really do that at church. I'm an old blues player in a bluegrass, folk-rock, gospel group. Besides the real old country gospel and folk tunes, I've brought in some pieces by Paul Simon, Elvis Costello, Van Morrison and the Grateful Dead. These are open minded Methodist's! I've brought in Drummers and Bass players to really rock the place, and they just love it all. The banjo player isn't too happy when I put the acoustic down, but he still smiles when we're done. It's all good! Thanks again.ART


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I'm an old Blues guy too. The Rebel is THE perfect Blues amp.


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