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Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 10:44 am
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I actually think its a good idea.If you are gonna mount them on the boards , the heat will rise away from the tubes.I like the way my bassman has them mounted seperate to the board altogether .I know the reliability of the reissue series is pretty good overall.I would be willing to bet the reason Fender mounts them the way they do is because traditionally thats the way tubes have always been mounted in combos(pointing down).


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The sockets were always mounted to the chassis way back.


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Ideally thats the best way IMHO.


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I purchased my BD in 05.
I love it. Only thing I did was swap speaker out for a more rounded tone for blues and classic rock sound.
I gigged it for over 3 years and never had an issue.
One day I will venture to the Deluxe Reverb. But as for now the BD suits my needs.
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everyone complains about the volume but my bdri is just fine. i use the same gt 6l6-r (sovtek 5881) power tubes but i swaped the pre amp tubes for some sovtek 12ax7wc tubes. i also changed the speaker to a jensen p12n . i set the controls to mv 11, drive 3, treb 8, bass 2, mid 6 ,pres 8 and play both a mim strat and an e.c strat and it sounds great with both. as for this amp holding up well you can use it for gigs or home with no problems. don't let other people make up your mind most problems with amps are not with the amp ,it's with the user. this an't the 70's fender amps. i've had marshalls ,mesa,crate, vox but none of them were a fender. it's all i buy now and i have been playing for 25 years.


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blackstrat71 wrote:
everyone complains about the volume but my bdri is just fine. i use the same gt 6l6-r (sovtek 5881) power tubes but i swaped the pre amp tubes for some sovtek 12ax7wc tubes. i also changed the speaker to a jensen p12n . i set the controls to mv 11, drive 3, treb 8, bass 2, mid 6 ,pres 8 and play both a mim strat and an e.c strat and it sounds great with both. as for this amp holding up well you can use it for gigs or home with no problems. don't let other people make up your mind most problems with amps are not with the amp ,it's with the user. this an't the 70's fender amps. i've had marshalls ,mesa,crate, vox but none of them were a fender. it's all i buy now and i have been playing for 25 years.


That statement is total BS. My problems weren't the user it was the poor design of the amp. Why did my Twin last for over 30 years with no problems, my 73 Bandmaster or 74 Champ never had a problem either, but mu HRDlx only lasted a little longer than 30 days?

I've been playing nothing but tube amps for over 40 years mostly Fender too, and the HRDlx was the only total piece of unreliable garbage I've ever owned. The lower end Fender stuff is just that. Low end. These amps are just disposable.


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Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 7:21 pm
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if you had those great amps why did you get a blues deluxe. the twin is way better than the bdri. did you run out of gigs to play and have to sell them or did you just want to see what us poor folks use? :cry:these amps are not junk. the thing is companys have issues with products, they ship them with a bad part or some other componant problems. you can't judge this amp because of a problem another person had. my bdri had a bad speaker jack but i took it to a shop and they replaced it so instead of gettig rid of it i solved the problem. i've had no other issues with it. when i said the '70s i ment the solid state stuff that just didn't work. people still use the tube amps from that time and swear by them. about using the amp properly, the bdri is based on a deluxe and a bassman. you have to turn down the bass on a bassman when you play a guitar through them or it's not pritty. people buy stuff with some misconceptions. you should do a little reading and understanding first. guys that play a lot of metal shouldn't buy this amp but someone who wants a "vintage style" tone with volume and a clear o.d. should. it's a winner. 'nuff said.


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if you had those great amps why did you get a blues deluxe. the twin is way better than the bdri. did you run out of gigs to play and have to sell them or did you just want to see what us poor folks use? :cry:these amps are not junk. the thing is companys have issues with products, they ship them with a bad part or some other componant problems. you can't judge this amp because of a problem another person had. my bdri had a bad speaker jack but i took it to a shop and they replaced it so instead of gettig rid of it i solved the problem. i've had no other issues with it. when i said the '70s i ment the solid state stuff that just didn't work. people still use the tube amps from that time and swear by them. about using the amp properly, the bdri is based on a deluxe and a bassman. you have to turn down the bass on a bassman when you play a guitar through them or it's not pritty. people buy stuff with some misconceptions. you should do a little reading and understanding first. guys that play a lot of metal shouldn't buy this amp but someone who wants a "vintage style" tone with volume and a clear o.d. should. it's a winner. 'nuff said.


No, I sold some of my amps because my circumstances and needs changed. I didn't run out of gigs I'm semi retired. I made my living playing music for over 25 years. I bought the HRDlx because I got tired of lugging my Twin to smaller venues and bars. I don't play big venues and festivals anymore by choice I might add, so I wanted something smaller. I had a HRDlx not a Blues Deluxe, but it's still the same sub par quality hot rod series POS amp. The Blues Deluxe is not based on either of the amps you mentioned. Look at the schematics and you'll see for yourself. The Deluxe uses 6v6 power tubes and a tube rectifier, the Bassman uses 6l6 power tubes and a tube rectifier, the Blues uses 6l6 power tubes and a solid state rectifier there are many other differences too.

I did have my problems "solved" too many times. If it was a one time issue I'd have no problem with it. The reliability issues I had with this amp were ridiculous, that's why I got rid of it.
You even had a problem with yours. I not crying about anything. I dumped the piece of junk and bought an Egnater. Solved my problem. I don't need to get into a pissing contest with you over this. you like your amp, fine. I don't recommend gear that I had massive amounts of problems with because it's so poorly made.

Take my opinion for what it's worth and what you payed for it and don't get your panties in a knot because I said something negative about a piece of gear you happen to own. I took exception to the fact that you said it's more operator error than an amp problem and that statement is still total BS. You should judge reliability by what others say and have experiences with especially when many people have the same issues. Tone is another matter entirely. I never said these amps sound bad, they are just proven to be unreliable.


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I hear so many people saying the Blue Deluxe is based on the Bassman circuit,thats BS.I have both the blues deluxe and the only similarities are they both have a presence controls and the tweed covering.They sound nothing like a bassman or tweed circuit in any way.FWIW.The Bassman is one of the best amps out there , totally blows away my blues deluxe.Much smoother breakup .


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Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 1:15 pm
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I have a Blues deluxe. MAN that thing is loud. I changed one of the small tubes (ax4?). And that helped a little. And then i saw on this site a thing called the Omnisonic. I got off EBAY it goes in the effects loop and as far as I can see is like a master volume. So I can crank the amp volume and use the Omni thing to play at a sound level that wont make my neighbors hate me. I play out 2 to 3 times a week it is a must have.. Aloha, Markdavid


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guys it's not a pissing contest here, you are on the fender site click over and look at the write up on the amp (blues deluxe reissue) also check out Tom Wheelers book The Soul of Tone and the CDs that come with it. i didn't believe that they had some bassman bloodline in them either but even when i had my amp fixed i ased the tech and even he said it had a lot of "similarities" to a bassman such as .1 micro farrad caps on the bass tone pot and 250k pots( the 59 bassman has 1meg on the bass) that alone says warmer sound. even the speaker was put in them to produce more bass. it was just made to work similar. i really hate that some people had a bad experience with thier bdri and hrdlx hopefuly fender addressed the problems from the past. your right it an't a bassman. i may be just lucky after all.


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There is more of us "lucky " ones around than some care to admit , but unfortunately the unlucky ones were unlucky more than once.


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Yep. I solved my problem by dumping my HRDlx. Egnater has a new amp called the Tweaker.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auT6qCWf7vw
Another awesome offering from Egnater.

I'm sure that the HRD series have their happy owners too. I'm pissed because Fender never really addressed the issues that have plagued these amps since day one. If you got a good one great, just don't get upset if someone didn't and vents about it or tries to warn other unsuspecting musicians. Did I mention I've been a LOYAL Fender product consumer for over 40 years? I still have and use an old Fender Fuzz Wah from 1973 for my classic rock stuff foe cryin out loud.


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sonny wolf wrote:
For the money,they are good but not great.They are not the holy grail of tone but I could definetely work mine when playing live.They give you a ballpark 50s tweed like tone.The clean channel breaks up at around 4-5 which is great for bluesy tones.The overdrive channel is a little harsh sounding due to the pre amp distortion(as opposed to power tube distortion).I've played mine for a while but it now serves as a backup amp for my 57 tweed twin reissue.Playing through that made me realise what great tone is all about.The blues deluxe is fine but it does not compare when it comes to tonal richness,sustain,balance and purity.This is due to the use of cheap components and P.C. board construction.I will say that it is probably one of the best sounding tube amps in it's price range.Unfortunatly,they also break down easily when used on the road.I've owned a few deluxes and devilles and everyone of them broke down soon after purchase!I think the p.c. board construction is too fragile when the amp vibrates from being moved and driven in a vehicle and soon enough things start to loosen up inside.A point to point wired amp is a lot more solid and reliable.
That`s good info sonny wolf!!


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